Calling all anti-war far lefties: ‘human shields’ are needed in Iraq

Posted by: ST on January 9, 2007 at 10:36 am

The old, lame, and tired argument about how those who advocate war should enlist has been brought up again, this time by the leftie blogosophere’s favorite blowhard Glenn Greenwald. John Hawkins counters GG’s argument here with a suggestion of his own:

If he doesn’t think you can back the President on a surge without participating, then the reverse should be true. Since Greenwald wants us to surrender to the insurgents in Iraq, he should be over there acting as human shield for a member of the sectarian death squads. Heck, if you add in all his sock puppets, Greenwald could act as a human shield for 4 or 5 terrorists and neck cutters.

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If people like Greenwald don’t like the idea of a surge, there is certainly an argument that can be made against it. It’s not sustainable. It encourage the Iraqis to rely on our troops instead of doing things for themselves. It will likely increase casualties and costs. If we “surge” and nothing comes of it, it could boost the morale of the enemy. Unlike Greenwald’s lame “chickenhawk” argument, at least those are legitimate criticisms of a surge.

Well said, and in a lot less words than Mr. Sock-puppet himself (read more about that here).

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  1. MinorRipper says:

    Buhbye. –ST

  2. Tom says:

    Since Greenwald wants us to surrender to the insurgents in Iraq, he should be over there acting as human shield for a member of the sectarian death squads.

    Are you certain Greenwald wants to surrender? Where is the link proving this? Or are you ‘just making stuff up’? I’ve never heard him (or anyone else on the left) say we should surrender to the terrorists. If you go on record like that, you must back it up with links or something supporting your statement. I get the feeling anybody not drinking the kool-aid along with you has to be a terrorist or is helping the terrorists. That simplistic notion is cute and easy, but unfortunately also very wrong.

  3. NC Cop says:

    LOL!!! I love Tom talking about Kool Aid!! Why don’t you ask Joe Lieberman what happens when you don’t drink the Kool Aid and march along in line like a good little democrat.

    Furthermore, since it’s John Hawkins that said Greenwald wants to surrender, why don’t you go ask him?

    What about people on the left calling Bush another Hitler, Stalin, or the worst terrorist in the world? Care to challenge them? Or are you only concerned with “accuracy” when it’s a leftie that’s being criticized?

    Also, would you care to comment on the actual topic or try to divert it to something else?

  4. Tom says:

    Also, would you care to comment on the actual topic or try to divert it to something else?

    Comment by NC Cop

    Sir, the topic concerned countering the call for righties to personally fight the war they are supporting with the lefties being human shields. Part of the reasoning was that (according to the author) Greenwald wants to surrender to the terrorists. That is a claim I wanted verified. If no verification is possible, then why would ST print it for discussion? And if the claim was legitimate, where is the link for attribution? Since ST used this forum as a way to highlight the discussion, it is reasonable I would post my POV on this site. BTW, the lastest person comparing Bush to Hitler was a Reagan staff member. I don’t see any benefit to ‘calling names’. It does no good and it exposes the limits of a persons argument. There has been a lot of name calling lately – from both sides. It is not the way to unite this country and defeat the enemy.

  5. arcman46 says:

    I think that we should start a website “sendalibtobeahumanshield.com to raise money to send any lefty over to Iraq to be a human shield. One requirement: they cannot return after leaving the country.

  6. NC Cop says:

    And if the claim was legitimate, where is the link for attribution?

    You see in the post where John Hawkins is highlighted in blue? Click on it and it will take you to the original article.

    I don’t see any benefit to ‘calling names’.

    Very good, I agree with you. I can assume then that you have gone to several liberal websites and said the same thing to those calling Bush a terrorist, Hitler, etc., right?

  7. CavalierX says:

    I hear they need human shields in Somalia, too.

  8. Tom says:

    You see in the post where John Hawkins is highlighted in blue? Click on it and it will take you to the original article.

    Comment by NC Cop

    Fair enough, but the link does not indicate Greenwald said the words attributed to him. A person could infer that was what Greenwald meant, but that is not the same as saying the words themselves.

    A Reagan aide was the latest calling Mr Bush names. Certainly the left (and right) can get emotional about the topics being discussed. That is no reason to dilute the conversation with nasty posts. Anyway, I will listen to the speech tonight and hope we can win this war and defeat the enemy. That is what is truly important.

  9. NC Cop says:

    Amen to that, Tom!!