Score another one for President Bush’s WOT policies

Posted by: ST on June 26, 2009 at 10:26 pm

More “change” you can believe in (via Andrew Malcolm):

The Obama administration, fearing a battle with Congress that could stall plans to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, is drafting an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely, according to three senior government officials with knowledge of White House deliberations.

Such an order would embrace claims by former president George W. Bush that certain people can be detained without trial for long periods under the laws of war. Obama advisers are concerned that an order, which would bypass Congress, could place the president on weaker footing before the courts and anger key supporters, the officials said.

After months of internal debate over how to close the military facility in Cuba, White House officials are increasingly worried that reaching quick agreement with Congress on a new detention system may be impossible. Several officials said there is concern in the White House that the administration may not be able to close the prison by the president’s January deadline.

White House spokesman Ben LaBolt said that there is no executive order and that the administration has not decided whether to issue one. But one administration official suggested that the White House is already trying to build support for an order.

“Civil liberties groups have encouraged the administration, that if a prolonged detention system were to be sought, to do it through executive order,” the official said. Such an order could be rescinded and would not block later efforts to write legislation, but civil liberties groups generally oppose long-term detention, arguing that detainees should be prosecuted or released.

Bbbbbut wait a minute:

Shane Kadidal of the Center for Constitutional Rights told TPMmuckraker via email:

“Prolonged imprisonment without trial is exactly the Guantanamo system that the President promised to shut down. Whatever form it takes – from Congress or the President’s pen – it is anathema to the basic principles of American law and the courts will find it unconstitutional.”

So what about all the cries from Obama about “unlimited executive power” and “ignoring the rule oflaw”? McQ sums up:

So it was never about principle, was it? It was always about politics.

Hope and change.


Lefty bloggers are already erupting in outrage. Will we hear cries of “war criminal!!!!” soon if the admin goes through with the executive order?

Stay tuned …

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6 Responses to “Score another one for President Bush’s WOT policies”


  1. dave christensen says:

    National Security hasn’t been a priority with Democrats since the days of Scoop Jackson. I just wish that B. Hussein Obama would shut his stupid mouth for one day. Everytime he talks, things get worse.

  2. Carlos says:

    Better yet, will we see him hanged and burned in effigy, or someone decrying he should be killed, as was the case about our last president? In those cases, even “moderate” donks defended those things as “freedom of speech”. Wonder if they would now, when it’s about our first black prez?

    And as far as “always about politics” goes, the current prez thanks Allah every night for the groundbreaking work W did in enhancing the powers of the presidency. You know the drill. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Hence, not only do you get a gem like His Hollowness, you also get reprocessed barnyard dung like Sanford, Pelosi, Boehner and Reid. Just think of how they limit the definition of “We, the people”.

  3. Bill G. says:

    But who are the terrorist suspects our Supreme Leader wants to detain indefinitely? The ones captured on the battlefield or the ones profiled by his Department of Injustice?

  4. Neo says:

    certain people can be detained without trial for long periods under the laws of war

    it is anathema to the basic principles of American law

    I hope everybody notices the difference here.

    There is a huge difference between the laws of war and American law. The former is one of those “famously enjoyed” international laws done by treaty, and the latter is the body of US criminal and civil statues.

    The best news here is that the Obama Administration is abandoning the use of “preventative detention” under Constitutional auspices, which he had alluded to back in May. Putting these detentions under the law of war thus limits there use.

  5. I see Glenn “Sock Puppet” Greenwald chimed in in denouncing Obama, but, still waiting for Excitable Andy, the Last True Conservative, to denounce George W. Obama.

    I just wish Bush hadn’t made the mistake of saying that the geneva Conventions didn’t apply. Had ge used them, there would have been no problem

  6. Carlos says:

    His Hollowness has discovered that his illusory theories about war and its collateral actions were just wind escaping his body. Now he will do exactly what the evil W and Darth Cheney were doing, call it something different but confusing, hold it up under soothing yet discreet soft light and tell everyone how much better he is than his predecessors were. Typical donk, typical lib, typical Chicago Machine, typical liar, and typical hypocrite. The sum of his true substance would scarce cause a single ripple in a pond were it dropped there.