Kruggie to Fibbs:
"Rudeness at the proper moment can serve a purpose — as I hope I’ve demonstrated over the years. But if you vent for the sake of venting; if you alienate people you’re going to need; then you’re just being stupid."
-Paul Krugman, NYT columnist & Nobel prize winner - 8/11/10
The head of C-SPAN has implored Congress to open up the last leg of health care reform negotiations to the public, as top Democrats lay plans to hash out the final product among themselves.
C-SPAN CEO Brian Lamb wrote to leaders in the House and Senate Dec. 30 urging them to open “all important negotiations, including any conference committee meetings,” to televised coverage on his network.
“The C-SPAN networks will commit the necessary resources to covering all of the sessions LIVE and in their entirety,” he wrote.
In a Tuesday afternoon press conference on health legislation negotiations, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appeared to object to the premise behind the request.
“There has never been a more open process for any legislation in anyone who’s served here’s experience,” she said.
Are you freaking kidding me?
As if that’s not laughable enough, watch this video of Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), assistant to Pelosi, saying nearly the same thing:
Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), assistant to the Speaker, said the healthcare bill had been “subjected to unprecedented level of public scrutiny.”
Pressed on whether C-SPAN cameras would be allowed in negotiations, Van Hollen hedged.
“We don’t even know if there’s going to be a conference committee,” he said, alluding to the likelihood that Democrats will reconcile the two bills behind closed doors.
Earlier in that same press conference, Pelosi said about the only truthful thing that has come out of her mouth in the last year:
Pelosi also hinted that holding informal negotiations–likely without TV cameras–might be the most practical way to push the legislation through.
“We will do what is necessary to pass the bill,” Pelosi said.
Yeah, I’ll say.
Here’s a video flashback to Pelosi’s Election Day 2006 pledge to help Democrats “lead the most honest, most open and most ethical congress in history.” Here’s video of candidate Obama promising to televise legislative negotiations on C-SPAN (at about the 1 minute mark):
Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), assistant to the Speaker, said the healthcare bill had been “subjected to unprecedented level of public scrutiny.”
This may be true, but no thanks to Congress or to Obama or to the MSM.
The amount of “public scrutiny” is due to three actors.
First, the blogosphere, which has assumed the role the major media dropped about two years ago. Some bloggers have taken on the task of actually reading this disaster of a bill – both versions – and have reported their findings.
Second is talk radio, which hasn’t rested in investigating and analyzing the bills from Day One.
Third, to be fair, there are a few people in the MSM who still do their job.
As for Obama’s campaign promises, by now it should shock no one that he lied.
Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), now why am I not surprised. We people in Maryland have Hoyer, Mikulski, and You-tube star Cardin. While Ben is all over You-Tube I am sure he doesn’t want camera’s on this show. Stealth Bills, Stealth Government, Secret meetings behind closed doors, does anyone think that the CIA should be taking lessons?
I now understand why Nancy Pelosi can offer up biblical-scale whoppers every day without blinking. My sources tell me that Nancy Pelosi is actually an alien from the 23rd Dimension. And in that plane of existence, whatever you say can’t be called a lie as long as you believe it.
See how simple it is? In Nancy Pelosi’s alternate universe she can’t lie: at worst, she can only state “harmless untruths.”
Seeing as how this process has been so “open” then obviously there’s nothing to hide and it would be in their best interest to pacify us unclean masses by putting a couple of cameras in the room. We could all watch the evil Republicans try to stifle the Democrats in their attempt to “do what the people want.”
Their arrogance knows no bounds. They’re so used to having a voting block that supports them that are just plain stupid and/or ignorant people that rely on them for sustenance that they treat the rest of us like we’re children. I can’t wait until November 2010.
Start early Dave…make sure you vote in the Primary in your state.
And, why am I not surprised? Oh, maybe it’s because I realized that we are being fed a bunch of lies from these people a long time ago.
I would like to know what their definition of transparency is? I am sure they have had a group of lawyers determine they could get away with using it and it meets the requirement of what they also call truth.
Well C-SPAN you can cry us a river…but I ain’t buyin’ your cryin’. Get in line with the rest of us discontented, angry people who want to pour our wrath out upon Obama and his minions. (This is of course true, since Katie Couric says so)
MarkJ, if your hypothesis is correct, then GWB and his administration must have been from a different dimension also, because when he said what he believed about WMDs in Iraq the socialist left came unhinged. Their point wasn’t that he didn’t know (although many believed he did), it was that ignorance was no excuse, the bottom line was that what he used as excuses weren’t true and therefore were lies under any circumstances.
Consistency, thy name is Democrat.
Consistently wrong.
Consistently lying.
Consistently tearing at the fabric of our once great country.
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Pelosi has now said that the health care negotiations are the most open that have ever been. A joke, right?
This may be true, but no thanks to Congress or to Obama or to the MSM.
The amount of “public scrutiny” is due to three actors.
First, the blogosphere, which has assumed the role the major media dropped about two years ago. Some bloggers have taken on the task of actually reading this disaster of a bill – both versions – and have reported their findings.
Second is talk radio, which hasn’t rested in investigating and analyzing the bills from Day One.
Third, to be fair, there are a few people in the MSM who still do their job.
As for Obama’s campaign promises, by now it should shock no one that he lied.
Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), now why am I not surprised. We people in Maryland have Hoyer, Mikulski, and You-tube star Cardin. While Ben is all over You-Tube I am sure he doesn’t want camera’s on this show. Stealth Bills, Stealth Government, Secret meetings behind closed doors, does anyone think that the CIA should be taking lessons?
I now understand why Nancy Pelosi can offer up biblical-scale whoppers every day without blinking. My sources tell me that Nancy Pelosi is actually an alien from the 23rd Dimension. And in that plane of existence, whatever you say can’t be called a lie as long as you believe it.
See how simple it is? In Nancy Pelosi’s alternate universe she can’t lie: at worst, she can only state “harmless untruths.”
Seeing as how this process has been so “open” then obviously there’s nothing to hide and it would be in their best interest to pacify us unclean masses by putting a couple of cameras in the room. We could all watch the evil Republicans try to stifle the Democrats in their attempt to “do what the people want.”
Their arrogance knows no bounds. They’re so used to having a voting block that supports them that are just plain stupid and/or ignorant people that rely on them for sustenance that they treat the rest of us like we’re children. I can’t wait until November 2010.
Start early Dave…make sure you vote in the Primary in your state.
And, why am I not surprised? Oh, maybe it’s because I realized that we are being fed a bunch of lies from these people a long time ago.
I would like to know what their definition of transparency is? I am sure they have had a group of lawyers determine they could get away with using it and it meets the requirement of what they also call truth.
Well C-SPAN you can cry us a river…but I ain’t buyin’ your cryin’. Get in line with the rest of us discontented, angry people who want to pour our wrath out upon Obama and his minions. (This is of course true, since Katie Couric says so)
MarkJ, if your hypothesis is correct, then GWB and his administration must have been from a different dimension also, because when he said what he believed about WMDs in Iraq the socialist left came unhinged. Their point wasn’t that he didn’t know (although many believed he did), it was that ignorance was no excuse, the bottom line was that what he used as excuses weren’t true and therefore were lies under any circumstances.
Consistency, thy name is Democrat.
Consistently wrong.
Consistently lying.
Consistently tearing at the fabric of our once great country.