CIA “deniers” are the new birthers

Posted by: Phineas on May 10, 2011 at 3:23 pm

**Posted by Phineas

Leftist critics of rough interrogation techniques continue to deny –in the face of all evidence– that the techniques used at Guantanamo Bay and in the CIA’s “black prisons” in Eastern Europe contributed in any meaningful way to the hunt for Osama bin Laden.

Marc Thiessen disagrees, and he cites a source Lefties will have a hard time denying:

The evidence that CIA interrogations played a key role in the operation that got Osama bin Laden is overwhelming. Countless intelligence officials, including CIA Director Leon Panetta, have confirmed that detainees interrogated by the CIA provided information that helped lead us to bin Laden. But the CIA deniers continue to insist it is all a “big lie.” Despite this testimony, and the mountains of documents declassified by the Obama administration in 2009, they contend that CIA interrogations did not work.

Well, if they won’t believe these sources, perhaps they’ll believe WikiLeaks.

I doubt it was Julian Assange’s intent to provide still additional evidence of the effectiveness of CIA interrogations, but that is precisely what WikiLeaks’ “Gitmo Files” do. Take, for example, the file on Abu Faraj al-Libi — one of several CIA detainees who helped lead the agency to bin Laden’s courier. The document describes Abu Faraj as the “communications gateway” to bin Laden who once in custody “reported on al-Qai’das methods for choosing and employing couriers, as well as preferred communications means.” Based on intelligence obtained from Abu Faraj and other CIA detainees, it states that “in July 2003, [Abu Faraj] received a letter from UBL’s designated courier” (to whom he referred by a false name, Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan) in which “UBL stated [Abu Faraj] would be the official messenger between UBL and others in Pakistan.” The file also notes a vital piece of intelligence: To better carry out his new duties “in mid-2003, [Abu Faraj] moved his family to Abbottabad” — the city where bin Laden eventually met his end — “and worked between Abbottabad and Peshawar.” And the file reveals that “in mid-April 2005, [Abu Faraj] began arranging for a store front to be used as a meeting place and drop point for messages he wanted to exchange” with bin Laden’s courier and was captured while waiting to meet him.

It is a miracle that al-Qaeda leaders did not read this classified document before bin Laden was killed. If they had, they would have been alerted to the fact that the CIA was on the trail of bin Laden’s courier, and they would had made the connection between the courier, bin Laden and Abbottabad — which could have blown the bin Laden operation.

In other words, waterboarding worked and, again, saved lives.

That sound you hear is the sound of heads exploding all over MSNBC… .

LINKS: My blog-buddy ST on an earlier Thiessen article.

(Crossposted at Public Secrets)

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7 Responses to “CIA “deniers” are the new birthers”


  1. Carlos says:

    It’s obvious to the most sanguine among us that the world is flat. Our own logic tells us so, so don’t even try to confuse us with “facts” as you know them because our truth is not yours, it’s all relative.

    See how easy it is to deny anything our government does works? Piece of cake, and one doesn’t even have to loudly sing “La-la-la-la – I can’t hear you” with one’s ears covered!

  2. PE says:

    Speak truth to the wagers of propoganda warfare? It will take more than charts, powerpoint presentations and logice to capture their hearts and minds. I’m convinced the real solution is to not bother taking any captives.

  3. Bear1909 says:

    They will be dhimmified even after we’ve won the Long War against Islam, living in guilt over the amount of killing that was necessary in order to end the tyranny of the Religion of Peace.

  4. Drew says:

    Chuck Colson had it right when asked about “winning hearts and minds”: when you’ve got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

  5. Martin says:

    Where does it say anything about the information obtained through torture? No one is denying that the CIA obtained the information about the courier. The question is whether the interrogation was done through torture or through legal means. I don’t see where Thiessen or Wikileaks are adding anything to that question.

  6. captaingrumpy says:

    When one is held by the balls, anything is possible .