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Audacity of Truth
Move Along:
""The whole issue of this - of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. The whole thing defies logic. And the fact that this keeps on getting churned out, frankly, has a lot to do with political motivations."
Pres. Obama on GOP demands for Benghazi answers, 5/13/2013
NY Slimes: Maybe right wing bloggers are partly responsible for Norway attacks
Absofreakinlutely shameless (via Patterico).
I’m not even going to quote anything other than the headline. The article is crammed full of baseless insinuations about prominent bloggers/writers here in the US (and a few in Europe) whose primary focus is to preach about the dangers of Islam, and the NYT is desperate to try and milk the “Christian right winger did it!!” tactic for all its worth – simply because the Norway terrorist referenced quotes from some of those writers in his “manifesto.” There’s one throw-away quote from an “expert” in the NYT piece about how these writers shouldn’t be blamed, but otherwise the entire article makes it clear: Yes, they should be.
And not only that, the last few paragraphs play the “they all do it” card, too. Hate to say it but … Toldjah So. Again.
Oh, and about that headline. Here’s how it reads (bolded emphasis added by me):
Killings in Norway Spotlight Anti-Muslim Thought in U.S.
Can’t these professional “journalists” ever get it right? It’s not “anti-Muslim” – it’s “anti-Islam.” Not all Muslims are Islamists. In fact, some of the most noteable speakers against Islam are Muslims themselves, some of who have received death threats, had to go into hiding, because they dared to criticize Islam. And as I’ve said before, I believe some who claim to be Islamic who really believe Islam is a “religion of peace” are not really full-fledged Islamists, because it’s very clear throughout the Koran that Islam is anything but.
BTW, the NYT wasn’t the only major media outlet to try and implicate right wing bloggers and writers in the Norway terrorist attacks. As Mark Steyn notes here, Canada’s Globe and Mail jumped right on board, mentioning him and other National Review writers as well as popular anti-Islamofascism writers and commentators.
Just when you think the left wing media (and their liberal allies at blogs, on opinion pages, and on news commentary programs) can’t outdo themselves they do so all over again. Here’s how their “logic” works: Violent passages in the Koran can’t in any way be to blamed for frequent Islamic acts of terrorism around the globe, but right wing bloggers who preach against the dangers of passively sitting back and hoping the threat will go away can partly be blamed when lone fruitcakes reference them in their “manifestos.”
If the left were any more predictable, it’d be a joke. These people are absolutely shameless.
Related/Update – 6:42 PM: Pam Gellar aka “Atlas Shrugs” responds to the NYT hit piece. Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer will be responding as well. (via my co-blogger)
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Isn’t is fascinating that “Kill the infidels” is not hate speech, but “Look out for the folks yelling kill the infidels” is?
Women and minorities hardest hit.
Maybe Scott Shane can show us the quote about how to rid Europe of Muslims by going on a killing spree of white children.
Gee…I wonder what Shane’s opinion was when Janet Reno oversaw the murder of 82 people in Waco TX.
@Neokong: “Liberal business as usual, only as it should be. We’ve got to be very careful of all those nuts out there who think they have God-given rights!”
Given the extreme reluctance of libs to ever blame the killer that actually did the killing, but instead look immediately for the political angle, I think we can take this thinking further.If bloggers and writers can be blamed for this man’s anger, certainly the political ‘leaders’ of Europe through encouraging policy, dereliction of duty, what-have-you, that lead this man to believe that he was ‘surrounded’and his government were accomplices, can be held accountable. There must be a reason politicians are perceived widely as ‘submitting’.
And, what about Islamists? Certainly, they have given the man a reason to fear them. So isn’t it their fault he reacted with terror? I doubt he’d have been as distraught over an Amish community taking root. Just an extension of the liberal m.o.
Nooooo No No this never ever happens to us on the Right. A poster on a previous message assured us this never ever happens and that we are just need to moderate our position. – Lorica
@Lorica: I never said that “this never ever happens.” You are lying. You are making a baseless accusation.
Islam is not a static religion. I think you show your hand as a poor broker of information when you cite a site like religionofpeace.com as the authority on what Islam is about.
First of all…you have to get around the notion that Islam can not even be understood in a language other than Arabic. This is an actual topic of discussion and an assumed truth throughout much of the Islamic world. Even before I start criticizing the source internally, it’s already suspect simply because it’s in English!
I do agree that Islamism is a threat, but I think it’s obvious through an examination of your body of work that you do nit know much about the work being done by Muslims in the Islamic world to create a more moderate institution. There’s an entire movement about….but I don’t think you even see it because you are stuck in an echo chamber. I think your world view is very rand this is what keeps you at the edges of an important discussion.
You are an idiot.
David kinda reminds me of Shakespeare’s quote:
“It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
Matter of fact, can’t say that I’ve seen or heard much from the left that doesn’t remind me of that, at least lately…
If only all their pseudo-intellectual beebling actually meant something.
The thought just occurred to me: Has anyone checked to see if the weapon(s) used here were part of “Fast and Furious”?
Just askin’.
No David, I am actually exaggerating the truth to play with you. If the NY slimes is going to do this, so will many other sources of the Lame Stream News sites, not including the fringe sites like the Huff post, and Daily Kos. Which have gained more acceptance as the travelers on the left continue to go off the edge.
David I have been a conservative for a very long time. Most of this heated rhetoric was started by the buffoons in Bill Clinton’s adminstration. Not that President Reagan was a stranger to their hate, but it was raised to truly horrible levels under President Clinton. Hang around long enough and you will see. – Lorica
@David How can something be non static but yet only fully understood in 1 language??? Doesn’t that seem to be the definition of something being non static that it is able to be understood in by a multiple people in multiple languages?? Christianity has no real problems being translated into mulitiple languages, and it seems to flourish without the use of violence.
You see David it seems to me that you believe many on this site are Islamophobic or whatever. That is not true, our focus is on terrorism, of all kinds. Physically violent as in a car bomb or suicide bomber or in the op ed pieces of the local newspaper. I have to wonder how many terrorist attacks have gone unreported since this man did this horrible act of terrorism. Oddly enough, who did he commit his terror on?? Do you know who those children were in that youth camp?? I read somewhere that is was a summer camp for the conservative party of Norway. Seems rather odd that this man would conduct an act of terror against like minded people doesn’t it??
Anyway, after reading the article I do have to wonder why they are not blaming Al Gore for this guy’s beliefs. The article says that he quoted the Unabomber, who was influenced by the book Earth in the Balance, which was written by Al Gore. So here we go again, Christian Right wing being blamed for the lunatic actions of another ecco terrorist. Just like the lunatic Laughner was all Sarah Palin’s fault, just like so many other incidents since the Lame Stream News Media decided to come out of the closet with their alliance with the left.
I have said this before and I will say it again Ben Franklin would be rolling over in his grave if he could see what the News industry has turned into. – Lorica
From Fox News:
More actions from the religion that cannot be understood by those of us who are too stupid to not know Arabic. This non static religion has within it an element that is a threat to good and decent people everywhere, but I can’t really know that as I don’t speak Arabic.
I can’t understand a religion fully that would blow off the leg of an 8 year old boy, forcing him to step on a bomb. Yep there is no possible way for right thinking people to understand this kind of lunatic crazed thinking. But we are the ones that need to moderate. We are in the echo chamber, we are the ones with the blinders on.- Lorica
Discovering how right-wing bloggers, Republicans, Christians, and anti-Jihadists everywhere personally bombed the buildings and slaughtered the kids in Norway is of course not just an American hobby.
Melanie Phillips also apparently pulled the trigger in the attack.
The English Defense League was in on it.
Fjordman at Gates of Vienna apparently was the killer!
And of course, it took less than 24 hours for the intrepid sleuths of the Left to figure out that Sarah Palin and the Tea Party were also responsible for pushing that poor, poor man over the brink.
I think it’s clear that Jesus himself was the mastermind behind it all.
Seriously, though….
Here’s a commenter on Ace of Spades:
Q: What’s the difference between an attack by a “Muslim Extremist” and an attack by a “Right-Wing Extremist”?
A: Right wing folks will condemn both.
And here’s A prayer for the people of Norway.
Ummmm…maybe that’s because the evidence of it is so minimal? Where were the massive counter-demonstrations of moderate Muslims after 9/11 or 7/7? Or after the WTC bombing in 1993? How many of these moderates stand up to organizations like CAIR who try to whitewash every case where good intelligence heads off a planned terrorist attack, like the Fort Dix plotters? Show us the films of these moderates dancing in the streets and handing out candy after the Navy Seals took out OBL. For that matter, show us even any messages of congratulations for that act.
In short, you’ve made a claim – so show us the evidence.
Yes, there are courageous individual Muslims who have taken a strong anti-terrorist stand Ayaan Hirsi Ali comes to mind. And in almost every case, they have had to go into hiding and fear for their lives. That would seem odd, since by your account, Muslim terrorism and Christian terrorism are both fringe operations. But for some reason no one feels compelled to go into hiding after criticizing a Christian who murders or blows up buildings. Wonder why that is?
You quite like to accuse others of wearing blinders. Perhaps you might like to look in a mirror and repeat that thought to yourself sometime.
GWR the only Islamic disaster organization I know of is The Red Crescent. This was started by the Red Cross because they got tired of their people being murdered or held hostage by Muslims who thought the Red Cross had something to do with the crusades, or whatever. Their hate toward anything non Islamic has become more and more evident no matter what we do for them. There is truly something wrong in the minds of some of these people, and I think it starts with their lack of hope to overcome anything in their lives. – Lorica
Lorica, I’m familiar with the Red Crescent and its work. I was talking about the moderate anti-terrorist Muslims David repeatedly refers to, and wondering why we don’t see any public evidence of their advocacy.
By the way, this:
was a trick question, because you did see some of that in one Arab country. Want to guess where?
Iraq.
Maybe establishing democratic institutions is a real way to counter these “fringe” organizations.
Ohhhh I know you do GWR. My point is that the Red Cresent really is an off shoot of the Red Cross, and the whys that it was created.
As far as David, it might be just me but there were times where he seemed to twist things in on themselves and the very point he was attempting to refute he ended backing it up. Hard to discuss a topic with a person who thinks that way. Multiple times I was left scratching my head thinking that his every argument was two different ones.
Iraq and Afghanistan would be the only 2 that would even comptemplate such an action. Both know the dangers of ALQ rule. Thank God for the Sunni uprising in western Iraq. From what I understand when that happened they turned more than 400 ALQ operatives over to the US. But some cling to the idea that OBL had no desire to be in Iraq. LOL Riiighhht!! – Lorica