Yes, I am deliberately not talking about the Congressional payroll tax cut stand-off

Posted by: ST on December 21, 2011 at 7:00 pm

… because I find it too danged depressing for words, especially the demagoguing coming from The Usual Suspects (Obama, Democrats, and their supporting castmates in the mainstream media) and the possible “cave” that may be in the works for House Republicans on this issue. Plus, I have had a craptastic day in general, and talking about this would only send me into a nasty tailspin.

So, the floor is yours, my dear readers. What say you?

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14 Responses to “Yes, I am deliberately not talking about the Congressional payroll tax cut stand-off”


  1. DennisP says:

    Boehner needs to quit sending mixed signals. He’s the Republican leader in the House for God’s sake. He seems to be a nice guy, and he cries at the drop of a hat, but we need some conservative leadership in the House, not leadership from a decade ago, but real, dynamic conservative leadership. I’m tired of having our hat handed to us because we can’t stand up for conservatism. I’m sorry Congressman Boehner, it’s time for you to step down – it’s not politics as usual.

  2. AJsDaddie says:

    Repeat it over and over: The Republican House passed a year-long tax holiday, the Democrat Senate cut it by nearly 85%.

  3. David Minnich says:

    Unbelievably stupid of the “tea-party” GOP to pick a fight over this, a battle not worth fighting. Let it go and move on; remember, tea partiers, you won’t get anything done until Obama is gone; you’ve got to operate with that end goal in mind.

  4. AJsDaddie says:

    The House didn’t pick a fight. They passed a year-long extension to the payroll tax holiday. Get it? They PASSED the extension. Then the Senate did one of those things it’s become famous for: it changed the bill, diluted the beneficial parts until they were useless, tacked on a bunch of horrible garbage, and then scooted out of town, trying to leave the House holding the bag.

    Usually at that point the House caves, in part due to people exercising logic like yours. But this time, some members of Congress showed some spine and said no thanks to the crap sandwich.

    I won’t bore you with the details of how a two-month tax holiday is completely unworkable and just plain bad business, but I hope you don’t believe that in November people are going to pull the lever for Obama because the Senate tried to REDUCE the payroll tax holiday.

    Get out there. Tweet the truth. The Republican House passed a year-long holiday, the Democrat Senate destroyed it.

    Why oh why do the Democrats hate the middle class so?

  5. H Hazell says:

    This was a bad idea from the beginning. Leave the payroll taxes alone and go after those taxes “intended for the general fund” so that thos “intended for social security” continue to flow. All this just sets up future money games for the next few congresses. Ultimately, I’d like to see the fair tax implemented and a massive throttle (held in the hands of we the people) placed on government bureaucracy, regulation and spending.

  6. Great White Rat says:

    AJsDaddie is on the right track here, but i have a different question.

    All we keep hearing about now is that if the payroll tax holiday isn’t renewed (for two whole, entire months, mind you) then everyone will get a big tax increase.

    Now think back a year or so ago, when the issue before Congress was renewing the Bush tax cuts. How often did you hear the MSM telling us that failing to renew them would mean a tax increase? Nope…all you heard was how this was a case of “repealing the Bush tax cuts”.

    Same concept, but a very different spin. What we’re hearing today is full of panicky, dire, OMG-the-entire-economy-will-collapse warnings because, for the first time in maybe 50 years the liberals are trying to NOT raise taxes (at least until March of next year).

    Do you recall hearing the media twits soiling their shorts in the same way in the case of the Bush tax cuts? I don’t. Back then, they were sternly demanding to know how we were going to “pay” for those cuts (like it’s not the taxpayer’s money in the first place, you know).

    I’d love to see just ONE of the media mob grill Dear Leader, or even Clueless Carney, on how they expect to “pay” for the lost revenues if the tax holiday is extended. The mumbling and stumbling would make Joe Biden sound coherent.

  7. Carlos says:

    And remember, boys and girls, that it was Dear Leader, Slo Joe, Chucky Cheezy, Dingy Harry, Nazi Pelousy and the rest of our communist/socialist NAZI gang that just three weeks ago was telling us anything less than a full-year extension of this tax “holiday” would be useless and certain to go down in flames.

    That’s one reason I think of Democraps as THE party of liars, although the Repubs certainly have their share, too.

    It’s amazing what trivialities the Democraps can punch into full-blown catastrophes, and how easy it is for them to flip from position to position. All they need is to know where the Repubs stand, and it’s an automatic “NO!!!” to anything that will help the economy, jobs or, for that matter, the country.

  8. Pasadena Phil says:

    The political fallout is all based on purely political considerations defined by the one-party establishment that cares not a whit about how utterly foolish and impractical the compromise truly is. Everything in government today is about scoring points while the world falls apart and we are supposed to be “practical” about the “accomplishments” in Washington.

    Imagine having to renew your drivers license every two months while having to spend all of the time in between negotiating the terms of the next renewal. And that is only your drivers license. You have to do the same thing with your rent/mortgage, your auto insurance, your health insurance, and everything else. Total crap. But that’s government and we are all fighting over which Republican poindexter is arguably better than Obama.

    We need to support those House conservatives, the famous “twenty” who stood the establishment on its head over the continuing resolution earlier this year while being bludgeoned by a spineless and corrupt GOP establishment that argued that being only 1/2 of 1/3 of the government, they were powerless. Those “twenty” proved the power of the Tea Party, that framed correctly the argument trumps the superior numbers of the entrenched criminal class of elected weasels that is our one-party government.

    It’s not about “anybody but Obama” in 2012. It’s about disgorging our corrupt and entrenched one-party government pigs from the public trough. And thanks to the “twenty” the fight is again on. Let’s fight to stop the GOP from caving again.

  9. Carlos says:

    The point I’ve been trying to make for a while now, Phil. Who becomes president really does matter because he/she is the one who fills unelected thieves’ spots on the SCOTUS and as department heads, but the power of the purse is in the Congress, and Congress only.

    Newt’s idea of policing judges sounds good until one thinks of how the jackasses would run with it, but Perry’s pushing term limits is spot-on. Our job, besides getting rid of Duh-1, is to get a whole new slate of congresscritters that will have backbone enough to stand up and fight the establishment crap that is dumped on us by the likes of Demint, Boehnor and most of the rest of the Repub “leadership,” and fight for term limits and a part-time Congress.

  10. alanstorm says:

    “The Usual Suspects (Obama, Democrats, and their supporting castmates in the mainstream media)”

    Oh, sorry – I read the ‘m’ in “castmates” as an ‘r’.

    My mistake…

  11. bill glass says:

    The facts and the argument favors the house ‘pubs, but this will not get out on the short term…they’ll need to stick to their guns. The narrative won’t fly because it goes totally against the grain of what people know to be true…that obama is suddenly a taxcutter is opposite of what dems always favor. That a 2 month extension makes sense to anyone is a mystery, and there aren’t in reality any people in the know that feel it’s workable. And also defunding soc. security make no sense for dems, who holler any time it’s touched. So, given time the truth will come out.

  12. John Bibb says:

    The democrat plans are pretty simple. Cut $500 Billion from Medicare to fund Comrade Obama’s Obama”Care”. Divert more of the incoming Social Security bucks extorted from workers and companies to reward their crony groups and “greenie” companies.
    Then complain that there isn’t enough money to pay the SS benefits. And that we need a big tax hike to fix the problems the dems caused. And get some political capital by blaming the evil Boooosh and the reps for the problems.
    Deja Vu all over again.

  13. William Teach says:

    Sorry to hear you’re having a bad day, ST. Here’s a little something to brighten your day, Freaky The Scary Snowman. Watch the videos, they are a riot.

  14. Carlos says:

    As expected, Demint/Boehner and Co caved. Boehner even admitted it was simply a political ploy that backfired.

    My gosh, jellyfish have more backbone than most Repubs! Someday maybe there will be a Republican elected official in leadership who will stand up for (if there is such a thing in the Republican leadership) principal.