NC Elections Board: Nearly 36,000 voted in NC & one other state in 2012 (UPDATED)

Posted by: ST on April 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm
Voter ID

The battle continues.

This is a huge story that developed over the course of the afternoon here in North Carolina.  I followed developments via Twitter and my mouth dropped open with each passing Tweet as to what the NC State Elections Board was telling a Joint Legislative Elections Oversight Committee earlier on issues of double voting, people being registered in more than one state, and …. dead voters whose voting record showed action after they had, um, died.  Bryan Preston summed up over at PJ Tatler (link via Phineas):

The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

  • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
  • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
  • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.


In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina’s rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.

North Carolina officials are now calling for tighter election security.

“Bbbut I thought there was no such thing as voter fraud – and in the event there was concrete evidence, it was “usually just a small few – not worth implementing raaaacist voter ID laws!” – me, channeling NC liberals after hearing the news.

It’s fascinating, really.  As the information was being tweeted out, liberals who have  a vested interest in getting NC’s supposedly “toughest voter ID laws in the nation” tossed off the books on the grounds that they’re “racist” or something didn’t stop to consider anything but the fact that this seriously underminds their case.  Keep in mind, they don’t even know if most of the people who double voted were Republicans or Democrats. In their mind, the law is racist and voter fraud doesn’t exist (except when the GOP wins elections, of course). Perhaps they assumed it was mostly Democrats who fraudulently voted in two different states and seek to change the direction of the debate.  After what the left has gotten away with here and elsewhere over the last several decades come election time, can you blame them for going on the defensive? :)

Anyway, I suspect there will be much more to come on this story very soon as both “sides” of the debate jockey for position, with the left trying to “debunk” the report as fast as they can.  And it goes without saying that the North Carolina mainstream media, reliably left wing, is “urging caution” on the NCSBE’s findings because the local “real” journos, of course, are the ultimate decoders and deciders of what’s definitively true and not in North Carolina politics – in spite of the fact they’ve been notably partisan in the past against Republican efforts to curtail voter fraud.

Stay tuned!

Thursday AM Update: Per the NC Voter Integrity Group:

In other words, it may not be the full 36,000 that double voted – but many will fall under that category, in addition to the nearly 800 whose names, birthdates and last four digits of social security numbers matched up in two different states.. We’ll find out more as the investigation by the NC Elections Board continues.

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9 Responses to “NC Elections Board: Nearly 36,000 voted in NC & one other state in 2012 (UPDATED)”


  1. Mwalimu Daudi says:

    Voting fraud is a Republican myth because climate change is settled science. Also because Koch brothers. Also because war on women. Also because shut up.

  2. ST says:

    Sounds about right, Mwalimu!

  3. Tom TB says:

    I’ve met college students who have BRAGGED about double voting at moms district, and where their school is located. Commuters up here in the NY-NJ-CT tri-State area can do it easily, as they actually have a deed in their name in one state, and a valid business address in another. Add all the folks who rent in one state, and have a Summer home elsewhere. We haven’t even gotten to the grave robbers yet…

  4. ST says:

    Not surprising at all, Tom. :(

  5. Tom TB says:

    ST, where there is a will, there is a WAY. The current administration has no will to prosecute fraudulent voters…no need to wonder why…

  6. Tuerqas says:

    The liberal response is fully predictable. They will ignore this data and go with “There is no significant voter fraud because look at the statistics of voter fraud convictions. See? There have been only 70 convictions over the last 20 years!” They will totally ignore all ‘righty’ facts if even one set of data still supports their original conclusion. You will continue to have this problem because no lefty has any desire to disprove lefty positions, it just isn’t done. And, since no right or independent source can be trusted to do an impartial investigation, no lefty position can ever be de-bunked.

    Look at climate change. The world is cooling? Temporary random weird circumstance. By 2061 all coastal lands will be under water (ignoring that that was already promised by 2010), despite the entire north pole having been reported as already melted by one eye-witness with binoculars. It was a lefty single eye-witness with binoculars!

    Are any of the instances of voter fraud prosecutable and is there an investigation underway that will include prosecution and conviction on the NC voter fraud, or is this just a ‘study’?

  7. tommy mc donnell says:

    these are all the fake voters that acorn registered. the party knows who these people(names)are and on election day party workers are sent out to vote as different people in numerous voting districts. people are not travelling to two different states to vote. i have seen this done while working on election day in a candidate’s election headquarters.

  8. Carlos says:

    And gosh, I wonder if all those fraudulent votes made a difference in either district where they took place?

    Can’t imagine why it should. After all, the media just knew by their own magnificent thought processes that the donkeys were going to win all those races, and that our Thief-in-Chief was an automatic shoe-in no matter what the vote count.