Reverend Dean wants your vote!

Posted by: ST on June 28, 2006 at 10:24 pm

If you’re a person of faith, Reverend Howard “yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh” Dean is a’courtin’ your vote:

(CNSNews.com) – America is about to revisit one of the most turbulent decades in its history, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told a religious conference in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday. “We’re about to enter the ’60s again,” Dean said, but he was not referring to the Vietnam War or racial tensions.

Dean said he is looking for “the age of enlightenment led by religious figures who want to greet Americans with a moral, uplifting vision.”

[…]

Dean’s comments Tuesday came at a religious gathering convened in the nation’s capital to discuss ways of eliminating poverty. After stating that America “is about as divided as it has been probably since the Civil War,” Dean declared that “we need to come together around moral principles, and I’m talking about moral principles like making sure no child goes to bed hungry at night.”

“I’m talking about moral principles like making sure everybody in America has health insurance just like 36 other countries in the world,” he added. “This is a moral nation, and we want it to be a moral nation again.”

Hmmm. I wonder if someone had the nerve to stand up and ask (as so often happens with conservatives like myself who assert that sometimes it feel’s like the nation’s morals are going down the tube) “Bbbbut by whose standard are you talking about on the morals thing?”

Dean actually made a few good points, if one sifts through the moral and religious pandering. Such as the acknowledgement of the harm that some of the 60s liberal ‘feel good’ policies did to our nation:

The problem is when we hit that ’60s spot again, which I am optimistic we’re about to hit, we have to make sure that we don’t make the same mistakes,” Dean added. See Video

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Another mistake Democrats made in the ’60s, Dean acknowledged, was that “we did give things away for free, and that’s a huge mistake because that does create a culture of dependence, and that’s not good for anybody, either,” he noted, a reference to the Great Society welfare programs created by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson in the mid-1960s.
See Video

Continuing on the Democrats and religion theme, Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) chastised Democrats today for not taking into account how much of a role faith plays in the lives of millions of Americans. He, too, made some good points:

WASHINGTON — Sen. Barack Obama chastised fellow Democrats on Wednesday for failing to “acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people,” and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.

“Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation. Context matters,” the Illinois Democrat said in remarks to a conference of Call to Renewal, a faith-based movement to overcome poverty. [note from ST: I think this is the same conference Dean attended]

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Obama coupled his advice with a warning. “Nothing is more transparent than inauthentic expressions of faith: the politician who shows up at a black church around election time and claps _ off rhythm _ to the gospel choir.”

LOL! Isn’t that the truth?

At the same time, he said, “Secularists are wrong when they ask believers to leave their religion at the door before entering the public square.”

As a result, “I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people and join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy.”

The lefty blogosphere reaction to Obama’s remarks? To paraphrase: “You’re just perpetuating the ‘myth’ that the left is intolerant of the religious beliefs of others, and we’re pi$$ed! Sellout!”

Barrack Obama is considered by many to be a ‘rising star’ in the Democratic party. But if he keeps ‘selling out’ (read: actually being honest about religious issues that confront the Democratic party) like that, he’ll remain a Senator, rather than a VP contender.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Democratic party continues to try and court the religious vote this year. They may do so at the expense of further irritating their base, and alienating them.

Not that I’m complaining or anything ;)

Hat tip on the CNS link: Patrick Hynes

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8 Responses to “Reverend Dean wants your vote!”

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  1. Marshall Art says:

    Yeah, but does he MEAN it?

  2. camojack says:

    I don’t understand people who are Christians and Democrats…they seem like mutually exclusive conditions nowadays.

    Perhaps those folks are intellectually lazy, or (dare I say it?) just plain stupid. @-)

  3. Mahwah says:

    ‘Obama coupled his advice with a warning. “Nothing is more transparent than inauthentic expressions of faith: the politician who shows up at a black church around election time and claps _ off rhythm _ to the gospel choir.”‘

    Ya mean like our first ‘Black’ President, Billy Clinton?8-| I see this as a not-so-subtle ploy to cast white politicians as ‘phoney’s’ as opposed to black politicians like himself. No party has tried harder to ‘fit in’ with the black community at election time as have the Democrats, and Obama is ratcheting up his personal rhetoric to elbow his party competition aside.

    Those Christians in this country who are also Democrats are living in denial of their ‘faith’. The right to kill the unborn can never be reconciled with any Christian value, and that is one of the cornerstones of the mainstream Democrat platform. Unfortunately comfort and convenience trumps true morality in our American society, and many Christian churches here would rather pander to the conditional morals of their congregation for the dollars it brings to the collection plate, rather than set the bar to a higher standard and risk a drop in attendance.

  4. - Well, well, well…..Listening to the sudden “moral” based rhetoric, flowing from the party of the Lazy Jackass’s, if you didn’t know better, you might think we’re getting close to election time again…. Oh…Thats right…. We ARE getting close to election tyime again… Wonder how we knew that… Damn Hypocrits….

    – Notice how “morality” to Dean, is all about give-away’s. Murdering unborns seems to be outside his frame of morality. No mention of same sex marraige, another one of those “pesky” morality things.

    – Obama is just dropping not-so-transparent hints that the Black vote may not always be there for the “victimhood” based community. Of the two, his is the more honest, which of course will make him an immeadiate object for derision. Democrats on the far left won’t hesitate to eat their own. They are so dogmatic they cannot stand any counter arguments to their extreme mantra’s.

    – On FOX today Cal Thomas debated Bob Becket about this sudden move to try to rope in some of the Evangelical vote. Apparently the core Democratic Leadership has been conducting seminars for Democrats to teach them how to “talk to Christians”. Apparently Dean needs some more training on the subject, since he said in one speech recently, that his favorite bible book from the new testament was “Job”, which of course is from the old testiment. Oopsie. If its possible to be any more of a pandering, feckless politician than Dean is, I don’t know what it would be. I guess he’s just doing what he does best, lying for votes.

    – Bang **==

  5. Severian says:

    It figures that Job is Dean’s favorite book in the Bible. Just the same as liberals think we should act. No matter how much you get dumped on by your master you should just sit there and take it, and be appreciative of the fact you’re getting dumped on. Only in their case it’s not God who’s abusing you, but government (which is God in the liberal’s eyes).

    Job is a terrible book in the Bible, it makes God look capricious and uncaring and cruel to those that are the most loyal to Him. God tortures Job and his family all because he wants to prove to Satan that Job is loyal? Does God think proving something to Satan is more important than taking care of his loving followers?

  6. - Its a bit of an overreach to put too much stead in various portions of the bible, keeping in mind that its a compendium of what various pious religious leaders “decided” should be included, some of which are really parables of the time, more like life guides to living than “the true words of G_d”.

    – Additionally, many of the books from the apostles, like the agnostic teachings, were omitted, which is more about a statement of social mores’ of the time, than anything having to do with cannon’s, or the properness of their inclusion.

    – Versions like “King James” is even more of a “personal preference” tome. This “editing” of the good book, with hints of mysogomy, (the missing book of Mary for instance), gives rise to all sorts of schananigans, and leaves us open to things like the Di Vinci code fantasies. The problem that the early church had, in including ALL the books of the apostles, leads to some really embarrassing questions when you’re trying to preach a line of morality so necessary to a stable society. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. The discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls, really threw things into a tizzy. I suspect thats one of the reasons, aside from technical problems, that its taking so “long” to decipher them.

    – Bang **==

  7. Marshall Art says:

    Actually, the debate over the inclusion or exclusion of books and gospels in the Bible is another example of historic rewriting as far as I’m concerned. If one questions such things, it makes it easier to dismiss the whole Book and those who base their lives upon it. The omitted books were not considered valid, authentic, and some were repetitive without offering anything of value. Some were also written long after those that were used. Some factions like to claim that those who made the decisions had some agenda in order to control. I think it’s all a bunch of hooey. Why is it that people prefer to think the worst of historic figures?

    Also, for Severian: I caution you against judging God by human standards. He is not human. He’s God. Job is a tough read compared to other books, but He didn’t torture Job, but allowed Satan to try his best to force Job to falter in his faith. My favorite aspect of the book, however, is the fact that it begins and ends with an inventory of Job’s wealth. He ended up far better than he started and he started as the wealthiest around. It’s a nice point to bring up to the lib who thinks God hates the rich.

  8. G Monster says:

    “yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh”

    Howard Dean is a clown. Belongs in a circus.