Bowling for delegates

Posted by: ST on March 5, 2008 at 9:11 pm

As the primary season lingers on, and the delegate count between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama so close, the question that keeps bubbling up into the minds of (mainly) Hillary supporters is: how can we legally seat the Florida and Michigan delegates, or can we have a re-vote in Florida and Michigan? Via Marc Ambinder, we have DNC Chair Howie Dean’s response:

Howard Dean will not bend the party rules to grandfather in the disputed delegates from Michigan and Florida, the Democratic party chairman said in a statement today.

Instead, he put the state parties on notice: either they can wait and allow the credentials committee to decide whether to seat their delegates, or submit to a re-vote sanctioned under DNC rules. “We look forward to receiving their proposals should they decide to submit new delegate selection plans and will review those plans at that time,” he said in the statement.

“Everyone seems to be asking what the DNC will do,” a Democrat close to Dean said. “But the question is: what will the state parties do.”

Dean’s statement implies that he has no intention of changing the rules to accommodate any solution proposed by the candidates or the state parties. There has been some suggestion that the two remaining presidential candidates might try to broker a deal among themselves. His line in the sand narrows the options for Hillary Clinton’s campaign because it is unlikely that a credentials committee would endorse a delegation congenial to her mathematical interests.

Dean will make the rounds of the network morning news shows tomorrow to explain his reasoning.

The state parties better act quickly: they have to submit a new plan and run the contest before June 10.

Republicans are understandably hoping to use the fractures in the Dem party to their advantage, hoping that a prolonged fight between Clinton and Obama will mean they’ll spend more money on each other than on McCain. TalkLeft thinks Barack Obama is only “lukewarm” to the idea of having a re-vote in Florida, while Kevin Drum tells his fellow liberals to “chill out.”

And in case you missed it … W officially endorsed McCain today.

But the big question in the back of everyone’s mind today was ….

Who does Cindy McCain’s hair and make-up? She always looks so classy.


Photo courtesy: Mike Stone/Reuters

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8 Responses to “Bowling for delegates”

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  1. “Who does Cindy McCain’s hair and make-up? She always looks so classy”

    More than that, she acts classy, Which is more than I can say for Michelle Obama.

  2. Ditto to what Tom the Redhunter said.

  3. Lorica says:

    AMEN!!! – Lorica

  4. Baklava says:

    Cindy McCain for president ! :-"

  5. Cindy McCain looks very “Western” to me. You just wouldn’t see her look on someone from “Back East” or the South.

  6. Rovin says:

    The “delegate debacle” is a no-brainer if the DNC had any.

    Tell both states that their delegates will be seated at the convention EVENLY SPLIT between Obama and Clinton. Problem solved. Of course Hillay wouldn’t like theses results, but cheaters shouldn’t prosper.

  7. The Democratic primary, and thus, whoever ends up as the Democratic candidate, will have no claim to legitimacy unless Florida and Michigan are allowed to hold meaningful elections – and have those recognized by the party.

    If not, one has to view the primary as a rigged election (rigged in Obama’s favor, given the demographics of Florida heavily favoring Clinton). No different, really, than what we decry when it happens in the third world.

  8. MGJ says:

    The Democratic primary, and thus, whoever ends up as the Democratic candidate, will have no claim to legitimacy unless Florida and Michigan are allowed to hold meaningful elections – and have those recognized by the party.

    If not, one has to view the primary as a rigged election (rigged in Obama’s favor, given the demographics of Florida heavily favoring Clinton). No different, really, than what we decry when it happens in the third world.

    Common Sense it is obvious you have no common sense about Florida nor Michigan. Educate yourself…

    Facts about Florida from a Florida voter:

    -The Florida primary was driven by a property tax amendment that affected many of the property owners in Florida contrary to what the MSM and Charlie Crist would have you believe. Of course they do not report this because then it would take away the premise that the primary was the driving force and weakens their argument.

    -The only reason all of the names were on the Florida ballot is because by FLORIDA STATUTE they had to be on the primary ballot if they wanted to be on the presidential ballot. Evidently this is not the case in MI.

    -The Republican legislature and Republican Governor approved moving the Republican primary up thus affecting the Democratic primary. The Republican party stripped only 50% of their delegates while the Democrats went postal and stripped ALL in accordance with their By-Laws. This was agreed upon by the DNC Rules Committee of which all candidates had representation. There was no protest from any of the campaigns who agreed to follow the rules and also agreed not to campaign there. The nerve that the Governor has to now insist they be seated is pure nonsense and pandering at its worst when he was the one who allowed this to happen. There was also a provision in the bill that the Democrats had to go along with so in effect the Democrats were trapped. Charlie Crist is a Republican and he will look out for Republican interests above all despite his effort at being so sincere. Beware of a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    -Hillary Clinton has a vested interest in Florida because she has the super delegates such as the Alcee Hastings, Bill Nelson, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Corrine Brown, etc. As it stands now, they will not be seated. If Barack Obama had won, can you honestly say Hillary Clinton and her campaign (Terry McAuliffe, Harold Ickes two former high powered members of the DNC elite) would be fighting so hard to get them seated? Terry McAuliffe was in Howard Dean’s position and set this whole thing up for Hillary and Bill to waltz into the WH. It was supposed to be over on Super Tuesday.

    :-?