Posted by: ST on April 22, 2008 at 7:01 pm

Election 2008**This post will stay on top for the remainder of the evening and will be updated often. The newest updates will appear at the top of the post.**

Update 13 – 10:55 PM: Hillary’s lead is now at 10%, with 80% reporting. Obama is still lying about McCain’s economy comments (see the current links in the Obama Files section on the right side of the page for the reality of what McCain said and how Obama is lying about them, and his ties to lobbyists). I can’t watch anymore of his speech – it’ll probably go on for another 30 minutes anyway, knowing him. Good night.

Update 12 – 10:42 PM: Obama will be speaking shortly (from Evansville, IN). Will be interesting to see how he spins his loss.

Update 11 – 10:13 PM: She’s getting ready to give her victory speech. Bubba is in the house.

Update 10 – 9:54 PM: At this stage in the game with 45% reporting, Clinton is ahead by about 80K votes and 8%. FYI, Obama outspent Clinton in PA by 3-1.

Update 9 – 9:00 PM: Michael Barone is on Fox saying that PA may turn into another Ohio, which would mean that Hillary may have a double digit percentage win under her belt tonight.

Update 8 – 8:45 PM: Fox is calling PA for Hillary. No surprise there. The margins, though, will be key.

Update 7 – 8:36 PM: Numbers are finally coming in.

Update 6 – 8:30 PM: Strange – no vote counts are rolling in yet. In the meantime, we all missed out on Obama’s leftover Scranton, PA waffle and sausage link, which was up for bid on E-bay earlier today.

Update 5 – 8:02 PM: Polls are now closed. Per Fox, Clinton “dominating” among her core groups – women, seniors, union househoulds. BO is winning big with the black vote, young voters, urbanites, college grads. “Independents” split between the two.

Update 4 – 7:55 PM: Polls close in five minutes. Remember to bookmark this link to see voting numbers as they come in.

FL/MI news via the Hotline Blog: “Howard Dean tells Air America’s David Bender today that there will be a rules committee meeting later this spring and that the fates of the Florida and Michigan delegates will be decided by June.”

Update 3 – 7:38 PM: Shep Smith is reporting that one of the campaigns is asking for certain polling places to remain open beyond the 8pm close.

Ok – they’re reporting on it now. It wasn’t a request from either campaign. The group “My Vote One” wanted to have polls in a certain county (didn’t catch the county) because there were supposedly problems with the voting machines but they were denied.

Update 2 – 7:30 PM: Bill Clinton – unmedicated.

Polls close in half an hour.

Update 1 – 7:09 PM: Polls close in a little less than an hour in PA. Record turnout (over 50% is being predicted. Per Fox, the exits show Hillary doing well among voters she normally does well with. Geraghty’s first round of exit numbers suggest a possible Obama stunner, but Drudge has different numbers suggesting otherwise. Stay tuned …


It’s been six weeks since the last primary, which has given both Democrat candidates plenty of time to plead their case in Pennsylvania, home to 188 delegates (29 of them supers). The total delegate count as it stands now – as per RCP, including supers, shows Barack Obama with 1,650 and Hillary Clinton with 1,508.

The junior Senator from New York has always lead in the polls in PA, at one point as high as 33 points (that was in October) but Obama’s money advantage has helped him to move within single digits of her in some polls in the closing days of campaigning in PA, although the final Zogby numbers going into today’s primary show her with a 10 point lead over BO.

Mrs. Clinton (who has taken to sounding rather hawkish lately) is expected to win in PA today (and Obama is already doing the “loss as a victory” spin) – but the big question is by how much. This could turn into another Ohio, which looked like it was going to be close judging by the single digit margins in the polling in the final couple of weeks but ended up being a double digit win for her. Or, Barack Obama could suprise everyone and overcome his “bitter” remarks he made to a group of m/billionaires in SF a couple of weeks ago and his poor debate performance last week to keep this primary to within 5 percentage points. As we’ve seen time and time again this campaign season, anything can happen.

I watched some of the talking heads on Fox and Friends this morning, and they were saying that Hillary needed to win by a double digit percentage tonight to be able to justify staying in the race. Of course, even if she doesn’t, it won’t matter as she’s vowed to stay in it until the convention, and says she will continue to make her case to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates.

The polls in PA opened at 7 this morning, and will close at 8pm ET. If you’re a PA voter, Dem or Republican, please weigh in in the comments with how your experience was voting today, what you saw, etc. I’ll update this post regularly this afternoon/evening with new news as I hear/read it. Refresh this page often after the polls close for updates on the vote numbers as they come in.

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10 Responses to “The PA primary (MULTIPLE UPDATES)”


  1. yo says:

    Mr President, the Iranians are attacking Israel. What are you going to do?

    BHO: Why can’t I just eat my waffle?:((

  2. G-Monster says:

    No matter how Pennsylvania goes, it looks like a bitter fight for the dem nomination, which isn’t good for the dem party.

  3. Beth says:

    I went to vote today (even though most of my nominees were running unopposed in the Republican primary). Not much to report where I live. There was the standard, long-haired, aging hippy (male) clutching an Obama sign in front of the polling place. Another man approached me and said, “Are you a Democrat?” When I quickly said “no,” he said, “OK then, remember to support Ron Paul!”

    So, that was about it. I went at noon, and there were only a few people there!

  4. Proof says:

    No matter how Pennsylvania goes, it looks like a bitter fight for the dem nomination,

    You said “bitter“! What will they be “clinging” to?

  5. Mwalimu Daudi says:

    al-AP cranks up the spin cycle on behalf of He Whose Middle Name Must Not Be Mentioned:

    Party switchers lean toward Obama, exit polls show.

    Uh-huh. And for anyone who believes that headline I’ve got some old memos about President Bush’s Air National Guard service for sale – cheap. If all of those folks crossed over to vote for the Messiah, how come He got clobbered? The pattern is pretty well set now: the Messiah wins the MSM polls, and loses when the votes are actually counted.

    It’s not the fact that the MSM lies that is so annoying – that’s their trademark. Frankly, it seems downright un-American to have an honest and ethical media that tells the truth. It’s the fact that the MSM’s lies are stupid, clumsy, and obvious that is irritating. They need better scriptwriters!

    Looks like Operation Chaos is a smashing success!

    And it looks like Michelle Obama will not be proud of Pennsylvania.

  6. forest hunter says:

    Todays headlines…….

    PITTSBURGH – Why can’t Barack Obama put Hillary Clinton away?

    Study: Midwest has the worst drunken driving rates

    Coincidence….I think not! I have perfectly credible info from the Truthers that there is almost as much substance here, as in the Twin Towers facts we are assured of and cling bitterly to.

  7. Tom TB says:

    DNC Denver 08/08 here we go!

  8. Leslie says:

    Most interesting thing about PA vote was CNN’s Bill Schneider’s dissection of the exit polling. He contends that age, not race or gender, was the determining factor.

    In a daring move, I noticed yesterday that Hillary had switched from her usual primaries to Tarheel powder blue–at least during the day. I hope that doesn’t tick off the Duke fans. I believe, when campaigning in NC, she’d best stick to her usual candy colors, and definitely go with the red for Indiana.

    Anybody know what what she was wearing for her usual bug-eyed point point artificial grin thing speech? By then I was watching the Yankees-White Sox, clicking back and forth between that and the NBA playoffs and checking out “Idol.”

    Will America please put Nanny Brooke out of her misery?

    Oh and hey, meanwhile over in the land of McCain, what is this??!! The dude’s telling the truth about jobs. Those manufacturing jobs are so NOT coming back, and he says so.

  9. Foxx says:

    BHO: Thats right m-f’ers, leggo my eggo! b-(