My initial thoughts on Obama picking Joe Biden

Posted by: Sister Toldjah on August 23, 2008 at 9:48 am

Yes, I know the politcal world has been anxiously awaiting my take on Obama’s pick but I had to sleep on it first. 

Just kidding ;)

Biden and ObamaSeriously, my initial take on BO picking Biden is that from a political perspective (trying not to be too partisan here) he was probably the best of the bunch being considered if you take into account the experience factor.  We know Obama didn’t pick Biden because Biden’s from a “swing state” or “battleground” state. More than anything else, when you look at polls you see that a significant number of voters across the country find Obama’s lack of experience troublesome.  Biden’s 35 years in Congress helps fill that void.   He brings experience dealing with foreign policy issues to the table in a way that Barack Obama’s overseas rock star tour never could.   Republicans may not agree with what Biden has said and done in the past on certain issues, but that’s beside the point.  Obama’s decision here wasn’t based on trying to pull in base Republicans, but moderates on both sides of the aisle and Independents who have been concerned at how wet behind the ears he is.

That said, as soon as the networks started rolling the footage of Biden from years past you almost got the sense that in the coming weeks and months Obama is going to struggle with trying to ‘look’ more presidential than Joe Biden, and may have trouble not looking like the rookie candidate that he is. Biden looks more statesman-like, he’s been around the block in Washington, DC more than a few times and knows how to negotiate with people.  Biden also has a tendency to be his own man – he’s not a guy who is just going to lay down and do whatever the campaign tells him to do and say whatever they want him to say.   It’s not uncommon for him to speak off the cuff, whereas Obama is generally tightly scripted, and pays for it when he goes off message. Not only that, but Biden is not a “change agent” and definitely not a “Washington outsider” – clearly we have a departure here from the established motto of the Obama campaign, a motto which early on stated that “Washington experience is not necessarily the right kind of experience.”

The AP’s Ron Fournier wrote on analysis of Obama’s decision to pick Biden, and suggested that picking Biden shows Obama’s “lack of confidence” in his own ability to stand toe to toe with John McCain:

He picked a 35-year veteran of the Senate — the ultimate insider — rather than a candidate from outside Washington, such as Govs. Tim Kaine of Virginia or Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas; or from outside his party, such as Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska; or from outside the mostly white male club of vice presidential candidates. Hillary Rodham Clinton didn’t even make his short list.

The picks say something profound about Obama: For all his self-confidence, the 47-year-old Illinois senator worried that he couldn’t beat Republican John McCain without help from a seasoned politician willing to attack. The Biden selection is the next logistical step in an Obama campaign that has become more negative — a strategic decision that may be necessary but threatens to run counter to his image.

Democratic strategists, fretting over polls that showed McCain erasing Obama’s lead this summer, welcomed the move. They, too, worried that Obama needed a more conventional — read: tougher — approach to McCain.

[...]

Indeed, Obama has begun to aggressively counter McCain’s criticism with negative television ads and sharp retorts from the campaign trail.

A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said his boss has expressed impatience with what he calls a “reverence” inside his campaign for his message of change and new politics. In other words, Obama is willing — even eager — to risk what got him this far if it gets him to the White House.

Biden brings a lot to the table. An expert on national security, the Delaware senator voted in 2002 to authorize military intervention in Iraq but has since become a vocal critic of the conflict. He won praise for a plan for peace in Iraq that would divide the country along ethnic lines.

Chief sponsor of a sweeping anti-crime bill that passed in 1994, Biden could help inoculate Obama from GOP criticism that he’s soft on crime — a charge his campaign fears will drive a wedge between white voters and the first black candidate with a serious shot at the White House.

So the question is whether Biden’s depth counters Obama’s inexperience — or highlights it?

After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain.

Roughly 10 years longer, to be exact.

What’s the McCain campaign’s reaction to the news? Three hours after the 3 AM text message sent out to those who signed up for it went out, the McCain campaign released this video of Biden talking about Obama in the debates, and another clip of Biden talking about McCain:

The transcript (via Ed Morrissey):

ANNCR: What does Barack Obama’s running mate say about Barack Obama?

ABC’S GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You were asked, “Is he ready?” You said, “I think he can be ready but right now, I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”

JOE BIDEN: I think that I stand by the statement.

ANNCR: And what does he say about John McCain?

BIDEN: I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off.

Morrissey adds:

The latter quote comes from The Daily Show and answers a Jon Stewart question in 2005. Stewart pressed Biden, who confirmed that he would have felt comfortable as McCain’s running mate.

There are plenty more where that came from. McCain and the RNC are going to be nailing Obama to the wall for the next 2 and a half months with quotes like these from Biden. Keep in mind, though, that Biden and McCain as colleagues have gone to battle numerous times over the years, and I can easily see Biden’s response to the question about what he has said about McCain as something along the lines of, “Well, I’ve said a lot of things to and about McCain, some of it not mentionable on national TV.”

But as to questioning Obama’s lack of experience, Biden will have a tougher time explaining those comments away, especially considering he’s long been a proponent of having experience when serving in the WH, as this ad he ran in 1988 while running for president demonstrates:

Relevant part of the transcript:

“The White House isn’t a place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power… the economic future of the next generation,” the narrator of Biden’s 1988 ad for the Democratic nomination said. “The president has got to know the territory.”

Not only has Obama given McCain and the RNC a lot to work with, but Biden has, too. The coming weeks will tell us whether or not Biden’s experience will help Obama or whether or not Biden’s criticisms of Obama and praises of McCain will come back to hurt The One.

The moral of the story of Obama’s selection is that he has conceded McCain’s point on experience: Yes, Virginia. In the end, experience really does matter (ahem).

Update 1 – 10:27 AM: Jim Geraghty has the line of the day (h/t: Lorie Byrd):

[Biden's] mouth will be an absolute time bomb. Will he refer to Delaware as a “slave state” again? Will he discuss who’s behind the counter at 7-11s?

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UPDATE: One last thought before bed: Imagine McCain picking Gov. Bobby Jindal. First line at the debate, “Senator, before we begin our debate, let me clarify for you that I don’t work at a 7-11.”

Here’s Biden’s infamous line about 7-11’s:

In thanking a young Indian-American man for the support of his Indian-American group, Sen. Biden touts how Indians are the fastest growing immigrant group in Delaware and says, “You CANNOT go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts without an Indian accent.”

Video:

Gonna be a lively next few weeks!

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    1. Great White Rat says:

      Biden looks more statesman-like, he’s been around the block in Washington, DC more than a few times and knows how to negotiate with people.

      In other words, he brings “gravitas” to the ticket.

      Bet that’s one word you will not hear the MSM toss around a lot, unlike 8 years ago.

    2. Joe Bide….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :d

      I love what Jonah Golberg wrote: I think it is an outright terrible decision on Obama’s part to pick Biden. Yes, he helps balance Obama’s inexperience on foreign policy, but he also reminds people of it.

      I hope the Obamamaniacs will enjoy their cell phone bills going up as the Barry Campaign sends them tons of text messages.

    3. Mwalimu Daudi says:

      I was up late last night nursing a cracked rib when I heard the “official” announcement from AP. My first thought was: I wonder what happened to the Most Holy Text Message That Descendeth From Mount Sinai?

      My second thought was: here is the attack dog the Messiah needs to keep His hands clean. Of course, that means an end to the New Kind Of Politics.

      Third: Biden has been around Washington a looooooooong time. Whatever happened to Change?

    4. NC Cop says:

      Sweetness and Light has a great analysis of Biden as well as a fine example of his foreign policy “experience”:

      Biden: Petraeus ‘Dead Flat Wrong’ on Iraq

      “I mean, the truth of the matter is that, that the—America’s—this administration’s policy and the surge are a failure, and that the surge, which was supposed to stop sectarian violence and—long enough to give political reconciliation, there’s been no political reconciliation.”

      MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you what you said in Iowa last week. “If we do not change course in Iraq soon, you’re going to see, two years from now, helicopters hovering over our embassy in the Green Zone in Baghdad with people hanging” onto “the ladders just like Vietnam. Mark my words.”

      SEN. BIDEN: Absolutely, positively, unequivocally, I believe that. Look, let me tell you, Tim, there is no possibility—no possibility—of a central government governing Iraq in any near term…

      Ah yes, no doubt a foreign policy expert.

    5. Tango says:

      Oh, there is no joy in Demville. Mighty Barry has struck out! :((

    6. Mwalimu Daudi says:

      NC Cop:

      Biden also was pushing the wacko scheme of partitioning Iraq along religious/ethnic lines (the whole thing was rather murky, which is what happens when Congressional Democrats try to think). That dog never managed to hunt.

    7. Lorica says:

      This was such a stupid stupid pick. The only thing good about Biden is he says some very stupid things and will make Obama look like a genius, which is no easy feat. Personally I would have picked Chet Culver Iowa’s Govenor. Yesterday he announced Microsoft is opening a new facility in West Des Moines, he is a former School Teacher, has executive experience and is a fairly sensible guy, for a Dem.

      If John McCain can keep himself from making a more foolish choice in a VP choice this election should be his for the losing. Let us pray, and pray hard. – Lorica

    8. Lorica says:

      MD as if the whole partioning thing has ever worked in the past…i.e. Korea and Vietnam, both partioned by the U.N., both spent years in war and misery. – Lorica

    9. Steve Skubinna says:

      Great, a publicity whore and an empty suit.

      Sorry, I meant two of them.

    10. Severian says:

      Sorry to hear about the rib MD. That can be remarkably painful, especially when you’re trying to sleep.

      My first thought was: I wonder what happened to the Most Holy Text Message That Descendeth From Mount Sinai?

      They didn’t want anything to do with a Bush, burning or otherwise…;)

    11. alchemist says:

      Bush’s lack of foreign policy experience was aided by Cheney… that seemed to work out ok.

      Finally, I think Biden can easily deflect past admiration for McCain the same way I currently feel…. I like McCain, like the way he presents himself to the american people, but I strongly disagree with his stances on a, b and c.

      For me, those issues currently are a lack of interest alternative energy, the gas tax holiday idea, and his lack of support for net-neutrality.

    12. Lorica says:

      Most Holy Text Message That Descendeth From Mount Sinai?

      Is this like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch??? =)) – Lorica

    13. Severian says:

      One, two…five!

      Three sir!:d

    14. Lorica says:

      Personally, I think the Gas Tax Holiday would be great, if it were permenant. I don’t think the Government should tax the product of a Corporation. I think it is foolishness that our Government needs 3 Trillion dollars to run, and I think it is assnine to believe that all corporate taxes aren’t passed onto the end user, along with the profit percentage. So we don’t just pay the 20 cents in Fed Tax we pay an extra 5 to 10 cents as that tax is fixed into the final cost of the product. This government is tax happy, and they need to quit wasting our money.

      We need oil, and for 20 years this government has been lying to the people about how we need to be “less dependant” on foreign sources of oil. For 20 years this government has done everything to make us more dependant on foreign sources. Now we want to believe what they say about alternative energy??? BS!! Like the compact florescent lightbulb!! Great for the 10 cents it is going to save the consumer we will be filling our landfills up with mercury, not to include the fact that new sources of mercury must be mined. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!! – Lorica

    15. Lorica says:

      =)) Sev =))

    16. Barb says:

      I think it’s going to take a LOT of effort to keep Biden from looking more statesmanlike than Obama.

    17. Barb says:

      Did anyone see the Sunday talk shows today? I only saw FNS with Wallace. What a bunch of Obamma cheerleaders…

    18. Barb says:

      Obama, not Obamma…

    19. Steve Skubinna says:

      No, I like it Barb… sounds like a mantra:

      “Obammmmmmmmmmmmmma!”

    20. Teri Pittman says:

      Also, what does this do to the argument that McCain is too old? Biden is 65. That’s not exactly young. Personally, it makes me wonder why Biden isn’t the candidate and Obama the VP.