No, President Obama, the US could not be considered a “Muslim country”

Posted by: ST on June 3, 2009 at 9:24 am

The NYT Caucus blog reports on some strange thinking coming out of President Obama as he prepares to embark on another Apology Tour (via Memeorandum):

HAHN, Germany — As President Obama prepared to leave Washington to fly to the Middle East, he conducted several television and radio interviews at the White House to frame the goals for a five-day trip, including the highly-anticipated speech Thursday at Cairo University in Egypt.

In an interview with Laura Haim on Canal Plus, a French television station, Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” He sought to downplay the expectations of the speech, but he said he hoped the address would raise awareness about Muslims.

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The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”

Sigh. Robert Spencer, who wonders if this is merely an “observation” or more of a “wish” of Obama’s, weighs in with a reality check:

Here is a What-Is-Obama-Smoking? Alert:

Indonesia: 200 million Muslims. India: 156 million Muslims. Pakistan: 150 million Muslims.

United States: 2.3 million Muslims (according to the Pew Research Center).

Don Surber does some number crunching, and notes that – at best – Muslims make up 3% of the US population. McQ puts the percentage at around 1.5.

Related to all this, now apparently it’s ok to talk about his Muslim roots, whereas during the campaign it was a touchy subject, mostly off limits:

ABC News’ Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report: The other day we heard a comment from a White House aide that never would have been uttered during the primaries or general election campaign.

During a conference call in preparation for President Obama’s trip to Cairo, Egypt, where he will address the Muslim world, deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Denis McDonough said “the President himself experienced Islam on three continents before he was able to — or before he’s been able to visit, really, the heart of the Islamic world — you know, growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father — obviously Muslim Americans (are) a key part of Illinois and Chicago.”

Given widespread unease and prejudice against Muslims among Americans, especially in the wake of 9/11, the Obama campaign was perhaps understandably very sensitive during the primaries and general election to downplay the candidate’s Muslim roots.

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Since the election, however, with the threat of the rumors at least somewhat abated, the White House has been increasingly forthcoming about the president’s roots. Especially when reaching out to the
Muslim world.

In his April 6 address to the Turkish Parliament, President Obama referenced how many “Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim majority country. I know, because I am one of them.”

Obama’s campaign claims on his Muslim roots – just words, just speeches? Yep. Obama’s newfound belief that the US “could” be considered a Muslim country: an offhand mark in an effort to try and “relate” to the world’s Muslim community, or something he really believes?

Hmmm.

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  1. Great White Rat says:

    Obama’s newfound belief that the US “could” be considered a Muslim country:

    Especially interesting since he goes out of his way to deny that America is a Christian nation.

    On the other hand, we’ve noticed that there’s a very short expiration date on anything Dear Leader says, so it doesn’t matter if he really believes it. He has no principles except self-promotion. If this idea proves unhelpful, it’ll join Reverend Wright under the bus quickly enough.

    By the way – did you notice who he specifically wants invited to the July 4th parties at our overseas embassies? The Iranians. Maybe he figures a few “Death to America” chants will provide a nice contrast with the fireworks.

  2. ruby says:

    is this man *&*$^%$^%$ crazy?!?!?

    it is not HIS job to raise awareness about Islam- what I know is disturbing, the more I learn the more I don’t like.

    off topic a little… what was Raila Odinga (BO’s cousin) doing in Iran right after he visited the US last week?!?!? and now it’s ok for Iran to have nukes for lightbulbs but we can’t have that here?

    :-?

  3. Lorica says:

    “Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim majority country. I know, because I am one of them.”

    In light of all that Obama says prior to this quote you have to wonder that in this quote is he saying he is a member of a family that has a Muslim in it, the opening context of the quote or is this code to the Muslim world that he is actually a Muslim. You just have to wonder why he is so willing to pander to these people who invaded the Iberian penisula long before the 1st crusader set foot in the Holy Land. – Lorica

  4. Robert says:

    It is easy to pick a persona apart based on the ‘evolving’ nature of their beliefs or stances. It doesn’t matter to me what he believes. What matters to me is this country is sinking into socialism like its an Olympic move we want to get gold on.

    We, as conservatives and Americans, have to get into the newspapers, classrooms, town-halls, courtrooms, university lecture halls etc. We have to expose the lack-logic leadership currently in control. This is NOT a republican or democratic issue. This is an American issue. It’s time we started looking out for our country, and not the backdoor-dealing politicians that run it.

    /:)

  5. Charles Duke says:

    I don’t even know where to start! Seems to me, our President could care less what he says and where he says it, to curry favor with whomever he is speaking. I am concerned that the only difference in the U.S. now and Rome before it’s fall, is a different Fiddler……..cbd

  6. Bear1909 says:

    The Horse left the barn under Clinton when the USS Cole was attacked and the Diddler in Chief did nothing.

    The Islamic Jihadists know we are weak. We can kill 20,000 of them in Iraq, and the jihadists KNOW the Left in this country will undercut the victory.

    We will not win at this rate. As long as Muslim Student Associations are allowed free reign on campus to shout down Jewish speakers and other cultural activities Islam doesnt find favor with, we are allowing Islam to pull down our society from within the “cradle”. How do you think the “Pro-Palestinian” movement has Jews in America selling out Israel by voting for Soetoro?

    The horse is out of the barn. You had better be prepared to experience the worst of times under this fop of a President.

    He is not my President. And I will never submit to Islam and its pathetically perverse system of Sharia Law (which is in our banking system now and creeping into our public schools at every level.)

  7. yo says:

    robert,

    unfortunately,socialism is a republican vs democrat issue. dems want it. it’s not an open question.

  8. Neo says:

    In admitting that the US is a “Muslim country” has Obama repudiated the accomplishments of Battle of Tours in 732 and, in effect, given the appearance of accepting the extension the caliphate to include North America to the Muslim world ?

    Is there anybody who understands the difference in cultures still awake at State ?

  9. The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

    I’m willing to bet I’m better educated on Islam than our president: having read the Qur’an and the oldest extant biography of Muhammad (and which is considered canonical by Islamic scholars), having read many secondary sources and scholarly works on Islam both medieval and modern since this war started, I think I know Islam very well. It’s violent, exclusivist, separationist, domineering, expansionist, totalitarian, misogynistic, irrational… Need I go on? After the escape to Medina, Muhammad became a perverse, brutal warlord, the “Jim Jones” of the 7th century. The unending command to wage jihad against the infidel (that’s us) and the imperative to impose sharia law everywhere have left millions to suffer war and death, from India and the Middle East to the skies of New York.

    I’m very well educated regarding Islam, Mr. President. How about you?

    (Two notes: One, I do not now and never have bought into the “Obama is a sekrit Mooslim” myth. Two: I am not saying all Muslims or even most fit the adjectives I used above. But, separate the religion from the believer for a moment, and you’ll see that they accurately describe Islam as Muhammad intended, and to this day Muhammad is held up as a model of the perfect man, to be emulated by all.)

  10. Carlos says:

    The vast majority of “followers” of Islam are like the vast majority of “followers” of Christianity: they have not the stomach nor will to be true followers of what is taught by their religions.

    The difference? The primary focus of Christianity is to become “Christ-like”, peaceful, charitable, loving and kind. The primary focus of Islam? To become like Mohammed, who had none of the attributes of the Christ, and force their world vision (caliphate) on all others. Christians, as a general rule, fall far short of their goal. Muslims seem to have a preponderance of fools willing to “go the mile” for their piece of paradise.

    It seems like the guy that alledgedly shot Tiller would have been a better fit in Islam.

  11. J says:

    The main point here is Islam relations. I don’t see any harm in encouraging Americans to attempt a better understanding…9/11 altered many perceptions of Muslims. His Egypt tour could be a step in the right direction.

  12. DamnCat says:

    So, using by Obama’s reasoning; America is the largest Jewish country in the world!

    Matzeltov!

  13. Carlos says:

    A step in the right direction? The only time Zero took a step in the “right” direction his daddy probably boxed him around and demanded he stay left. And the lesson stayed with him his whole life.

    Unfortunately, we, the people, are paying the price for that, and the only reason he has to go over there and “make nicey-nice” is to suck up to those who sponsor attacks against our country anywhere, anytime in the world. When will jackasses realize the only compromise with the Islamists is when we compromise our country and they demand more?

  14. forest hunter says:

    Sorry J: I’ve seen enough and my understanding of the Islamic cult is as enhanced as it needs to be. Now is the time to purge, not be even more open minded, for some more hogwash about the intentions of some asshat pedophile and his evil little mindless trolls and handmaidens.

    Egypt can keep the Malesor.

  15. Ruth says:

    Dear God! All durng the campaign if anyone even hinted that Obama was moslem; they would have been labeled a racist. Now that he is elected he can say “hah!fooled ya”. He will go down in history as the most anti-american president we have ever seen. He is out ther kissing and bowing to arab princes

  16. Carlos says:

    “He will go down in history as the most anti-american president we have ever seen.”

    He’s already surpassed Jimmuh, and did that in less than three months while Jimmuh has had nearly thirty years to trash the country and all its allies.

    Way to go, Zero! A new record!

  17. alchemist says:

    And yet, 63% of Americans still approve of the job he’s doing.

  18. NC Cop says:

    And yet, 63% of Americans still approve of the job he’s doing

    Wasn’t it just in the 70′s not too long ago?

    It appears reality is setting in.

  19. alchemist says:

    Actually, the RCP (real clear politics) average has stayed right around 60 the whole time (with a high at 65). The disapprove has slowly crept up to 35 though. Still, that’s probably just the conservative base

  20. NC Cop says:

    Well according to the latest Rasmussen his approval rating was at 55%. Here’s a good roundup of his past approval ratings with different polling agencies.

    LINK

    Also, I wouldn’t wet my pants with glee over Obama’s approval rating. Bush’s was about the same during his first 4 months.

  21. Great White Rat says:

    Alchemist is confusing personal popularity with policy popularity. It’s true that Obama remains personally popular, primarily due to the adoring MSM coverage he’s received non-stop for the past year.

    But if you ask voters about the policies – porkulus, closing Gitmo, nationalizing auto makers, etc. – the results are uniformly negative. Most people simply haven’t attached the policies to the man yet. Once that identification gets past the MSM filters, his popularity will drop as well.

  22. forest hunter says:

    Every time I hear the populist theme, I’m reminded of a ploy where one kid won some student office because of his popularity. The difference was however, he bought his popularity with ice cream and they actually got something that was promised, which is where teh no0Bs *change* begins.

  23. Lorica says:

    Still, that’s probably just the conservative base

    Actually it is probably moderates waking up to the havoc they have wrought by voting for this person.

    Also an almost 20 point leap in 4 months is slowly?? Is that like the 14 month “Rush to war” Alchemist?? Amazing how you will justify these things. – Lorica

  24. Carlos says:

    Alchemist, that 65% is virtually identical to the one W got at the same time in office.

    With any luck, Zero will have the same personal “disapproval” rating W had at the end of his second term, but “the One” will have it before he’s halfway through his first (and only) term.

    Good saying: You can fool all of the people some of the time, but a lib’s a fool all the time.