Since when has the left been “outraged” over attempts by politicos to “undermine” the US?

Posted by: ST on June 9, 2009 at 8:13 pm

Apparently, only when they perceive that it’s a Republican doing it:

WASHINGTON – SENIOR Chinese leaders have privately voiced fear over the soaring US budget deficit and are increasingly looking to diversify from the dollar, a Republican congressman said on Monday.
‘We heard across the board – in private – substantial, continuing and rising concern,’ Representative Mr Mark Kirk said after a trip to China that included talks with government officials and central bank chief Dr Zhou Xiaochuan.

‘It’s clear that China would like to diversify from its dollar investments,’ the lawmaker said at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think-tank.

Mr Kirk’s assessment differed with that of Treasury Secretary Mr Timothy Geithner, who said last week on a separate visit that Chinese leaders had expressed ‘justifiable confidence’ on the future of the recession-hit US economy.

Mr Kirk traveled with Representative Mr Rick Larsen, a member of President Barack Obama’s Democratic Party, who also painted a less gloomy picture of Chinese officials’ views.

China is the largest creditor to the United States with some 700 billion dollars invested in Treasury bonds. Dr Zhou earlier this year floated the idea of replacing the dollar with a basket of currencies as the benchmark global unit.

Mr Kirk said that Chinese leaders were sharply critical in private of the US Federal Reserve’s policy of ‘quantitative easing’ – a form of flooding the financial system with cash, which critics deride as printing imaginary money.

The United States has been running large budget shortfalls since the tenure of president George W. Bush.

Government officials estimate a deficit of 1.841 trillion US dollars for the 2009 budget.

Mr Kirk, a former diplomat who remains an active reservist in the US Navy, is seen as a rising star in the Republican Party and is eyeing a run next year for Mr Obama’s former US Senate seat in Illinois.


‘One of the messages I had – because we need to build trust and confidence in our number one creditor – is that the budget numbers that the US government has put forward should not be believed,’ Mr Kirk said.

‘Congress is actually going to spend quite a bit more,’ he said.

Probably, but I think the Chinese could have figured that out on their own without Kirk’s “help.” He should have saved his comments for stateside rather than blabbing to Chinese officials.

Kirk’s remarks have prompted both implied and stated criticism in the lefty blogosphere:

Eric Kleefeld – TPMDC: “Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) now appears to have taken a bold step in the debate over the budget deficit: Openly telling a foreign government not to trust the administration in Washington.”

Steve Benen – Washington Monthly: “In general, criticizing U.S. politicians by questioning their patriotism is cheap and unnecessary. But once in a while, Republican opposition to the administration is so counter-productive to the nation’s interests, it’s hard not to wonder whether the GOP official is deliberately trying to undermine the United States. ”


“Misguided bravado in advance of a campaign is understandable. Traveling overseas to undercut confidence in the United States is not.”

“possiblefuture”- Daily Kos: “If not exactly treasonous, isn’t this at least unpatriotic, for a minority Congressman to pretend he can speak for the American government and, in doing so, sabatoge our nation’s efforts to stabilize the global economy? […] So, why wasn’t Kirk censured? He has a right to his opinions, but when he speaks with foreign leaders who have a big influence over our economy, he has no right to misrepresent America’s interests.”

Isn’t it so nice to finally see liberals worried about Congressional politicos undermining a sitting President while on foreign soil? I remember when Pelosi went contra-US policy by travelling overseas and meeting face to face with Syrian president Bashar Assad, the most “senior official” to ever meet with Assad – which turned out to be a disaster. Syria, as I’m sure you know, was then and still is providing safe-haven for AQ terrorists who want to kill our troops in Iraq and Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists who don’t believe Israel has a right to exist. Liberals defended this attempt by Pelosi to (ahem) “normalize” relations with Syria, and the only “outrage” they could muster up about the controversy was over the fact that there was so little outrage over reports that Republican congressmen had visited Syria around the same time, too, and the trip didn’t generate the fanfare that Pelosi’s did.

Oh, and speaking of Syria, there’s another attempt at undermining a sitting US president that comes to mind, this time from Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-VA). He admitted in November 2005 that he visited several Middle Eastern heads of state in January 2002 to tell them that he believed the POTUS was planning on attacking Iraq. Direct quote:

WALLACE: Now, the President never said that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat. As you saw, you did say that. If anyone hyped the intelligence, isn’t it Jay Rockefeller?

SEN. ROCKEFELLER: No. The — I mean, this question is asked a thousand times and I’ll be happy to answer it a thousand times. I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq — that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11.

Bill Bennett had it right in his response to Rockefeller’s admission:

While Democrats in Washington are berating the White House for having prewar intelligence wrong, a high-profile U.S. senator, member of the Select Committee on Intelligence, who has a name more internationally recognizable than Richard Cheney’s, tells two putative allies (Saudi Arabia and Jordan) and an enemy who is allied with Saddam Hussein (Syria) that the United States was going to war with Iraq. This is not a prewar intelligence mistake, it is a prewar intelligence giveaway.

Syria is not only on the list of state sponsors of terrorism and the country many speculate is where Hussein has secreted weapons, it is also the country from which terrorists are flowing into Iraq to fight our troops and allies. Jordan and Saudi Arabia have had, over the years, conflicted loyalties. What was Senator Rockefeller doing? What was he thinking? And all this before President Bush even made a public speech about Iraq — to the U.N. or anyone else.

Liberal hero and icon Glenn Greenwald – who can now be read daily on the ultra-liberal – wrote a response typical of the “defenses” being offered up about Rockefeller’s confession at the time. On the other hand this is what the liberal “outrage” sounded like:

I could go on and on about liberals going overseas and attempting to undermine sitting Republican presidents (Howard Dean, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, and Baghdad Jim come to mind), but the point’s already been made without having to elaborate much more. Then it was a “free speech” issue. Now it’s “How dare a Republican Congressman attempt to undermine the Obama administration when we need to be putting up a united front!”

I welcome these bloggers to the mindset most conservatives have about politicos needing to be careful about what they say – and do – while they’re on foreign soil. It’s sure taken them long enough to come around.

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12 Responses to “Since when has the left been “outraged” over attempts by politicos to “undermine” the US?”


  1. Mwalimu Daudi says:

    Kirk is pondering a run for the US Senate seat presently held by Roland Burris. That tells you all that you need to know about the Left’s unhinged reaction.

    Burris will be both tough for the Democrats to unseat in the Democrat primary (I can just hear the shrieks of “Racism” coming from the so-called civil rights establishment) and tough to convince independents to vote for if he survives a primary challenge. Thus, the attacks on anyone who might threaten the Democrats’ hold on Obama’s old seat.

    On a completely unrelated note: whatever prayers ST and her readers sent up on my behalf worked. I have been offered a full-time teaching position in the Mathematics Department at a local community college. So to everyone – Thank you!

  2. forest hunter says:

    MD: Too bad you *got no street cred* or otherwise criminal actions pending. You might’ve been offered a position in the Nubians admin….’then you WOULD have some street cred! :o


    Congrats on your new gig, buddy!=d>

  3. Mwalimu Daudi says:

    Naw, forest – to get a gig in the Won’s Thousand-Year Reich you need to be a major-league tax cheat. Five figures or better just to get a second look. Plus a lobotomy for a Cabinet-level post. Terrorism, murder, rape, a mere felony (or ten) does not cut it – competition is too keen for a chance to slurp at the public trough. William Ayers was a mad bomber, and he got zip.

    At any rate (to head back on-topic) Kirk had better watch his back for media-tossed knives (made in Cook County, of course).

  4. RickinTexas says:

    As I drift off to sleep I start to dream about January 21,2013 and the first day of the US Senate Truth Hearings chaired by Senator Liz Cheney. Who is the first witness?
    The list is mind boggling. All 17 Democrat Senators ( yes from 60 to 17 in 4 years) have signed a letter of protest.

  5. Severian says:

    Somewhat off topic, but allow me to add my congratulations to you MD! Science, engineering, and math departments tend to be far less ideologically rigid than the soft side of the house, which are usually populated with liberals to the almost total exclusion of conservatives. It’s nice to see you made it into academia, I’m sure your common sense, rational approach will be of great benefit to your students. Imagine, a math class that actually teaches math, instead of political activism! The mind boggles!


  6. Carlos says:

    First, your analysis of the left’s reaction is spot on – why are they so unhinged at what they, as an ideological group, perfected?

    That said, I would think that what we decried so many years would be as bad for us to do as for the leftist loonies, even if what we say is correct.

    Was Kirk correct in his assessment? Probably. Was he correct in announcing it to the world (mostly as a campaign tactic)? No more so than Pelosi, or Clinton, or (especially) Obama.

  7. Mega-congrats, MD!!

  8. Lorica says:


    Congratulations MD!!! I am so happy for you!!<:-p


    Mr Kirk’s assessment differed with that of Treasury Secretary Mr Timothy Geithner, who said last week on a separate visit that Chinese leaders had expressed ‘justifiable confidence’ on the future of the recession-hit US economy.

    Ummm Geithner has already proven himself to be a liar and a criminal, why would anyone believe a word that comes out of his mouth. =)) Ohhh Gawd are these people stupid. – Lorica

  9. Great White Rat says:

    MD, congratulations and best wishes for success always in the new position!! =d>

    Now, let’s hope Obama doesn’t find out about this, or he will be bragging that he personally “saved or created” your new job. :-$

    As for Kirk’s remarks, two points: first, it is laughable to see leftists suddenly worried about running America down when overseas, considering their track record for as long as I can remember.

    Second, it’s not like Kirk told the Chinese something they don’t know. They may be brutal statists, but they’re very smart. They’ve already laughed Geithner out of town for trying to feed them the same nonsense that our gullible domestic leftists swallow. They’ve also told Pelosi and Hillary to put a cork in the AGW foolishness too – China is not going to kneel at the altar of al-Gore.

    The Chinese government is a lot more realistic about most things than the current assortment of leftist clucks in charge in Washington.

  10. NC Cop says:

    Congrats, MD!!! Knock ’em dead! =d>

    I love the teaching profession. If I wasn’t in law enforcement I would love to be a teacher. I’m hoping after I retire I can get a job teaching.

  11. forest hunter says:

    NC Cop: While you may not consider what you do every day both here and face to face, you’re already a teacher and a damn fine one!

    Always lead from the front! That’s why they call it leading!

  12. GoingForward says:

    No wonder the Chinese laughed at Secretary Geithner when he said that China’s assets are safe on June 1. Kirk had been there the week before (May 22) telling them not to believe anything the US government says.

    I fear that this will be Kirk’s “macaca moment,” like that racial slur caught on video that sunk George Allen’s Senate race. He presented the Illinois Democrats with a nice little video clip for future campaign ads. He might have been a good Senator, but he blew it.