Laughing at ObamaCare – and a snarl for Dem Senators who won’t enroll in it

Posted by: ST on July 21, 2009 at 6:52 pm

The issue itself isn’t funny, but the claims made by Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-MO) in the below short video are, so much to the point that even the audience he is speaking to laughs out loud at some of his claims:

Video via Kevin Jackson, who asked – without getting an answer – if the plan is so good, why don’t members of Congress get on it, and Michelle Malkin.

Here’s more on how Senate Democrats reacted to Sen. Coburn’s amendment to the healthcare bill that would have required all Senate members and their staffs to enroll in whatever government healthcare plan that may come out of the debate:

In the health debate, liberals sing Hari Krishnas to the “public option” — a new federal insurance program like Medicare — but if it’s good enough for the middle class, then surely it’s good enough for the political class too? As it happens, more than a few Democrats disagree.

On [last] Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor of a two-page amendment courtesy of Republican Tom Coburn that would require all Members and their staffs to enroll in any new government-run health plan. Yet all Democrats — with the exceptions of acting chairman Chris Dodd, Barbara Mikulski and Ted Kennedy via proxy — voted nay.

In other words, Sherrod Brown and Sheldon Whitehouse won’t themselves join a plan that “will offer benefits that are as good as those available through private insurance plans — or better,” as the Ohio and Rhode Island liberals put it in a recent op-ed. And even a self-described socialist like Vermont’s Bernie Sanders, who supports a government-only system, wouldn’t sign himself up.

Of course, they also qualify now for generous Congressional coverage. Most Americans won’t have the same choice. Some will be transferred to the new entitlement as it uses its taxpayer bankroll to dominate insurance markets. Others work for businesses that will find it easier to dump their policies and move employees to the federal rolls. Democrats also know that the public option will try to control health spending by squeezing payments made to doctors and hospitals, and by not paying for treatments that Washington decides are too expensive, which will result in inferior care.

No doubt Mr. Dodd acceded to the Coburn amendment to blunt such objections, and in any case he’ll strip it out later in some backroom. Judd Gregg was the only GOP Senator to oppose it, on humanitarian grounds. As he told us in an interview, the public option “will be so bad that I don’t think anyone should be forced to join.”

‘Nuff said

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  1. Lorica says:

    I think each and every state should reign in it’s Federal Representation and create laws that specifically state that these citizens must be a part of this trash. These buffoons are not above anyone, and it is time to hold them accountable. “F” their superior attitude. We the people are going to always get trash legislation as long as these losers can exempt themselves. – Lorica

  2. Tango says:

    I agree with Lorica.

    One of the worst decisions to come out of the Supreme Court in my lifetime was the one that exempted the House and Senate from term limits.

    :(

  3. Neo says:

    Perhaps they should require that the proceeds from books penned by public officials or about their time as public officials be taxed at the 100% rate.

  4. marybel says:

    All government employees need to be signed up for this trashy coverage…not just the elected ones.

    Government employees have health care coverage far superior to what is offered the rest of us even today on the open market. Government employees also have lovely pensions to keep them happy in their dotage.

    In fact the next huge bill coming due down the pike is their pensions…that we are supposed to pay.

  5. JorgXMcKie says:

    Evidently some dustup happened between Carnahan and “a black man” and reference to it has been taken down. I followed the story to memoerandum.com (I believe) and the account has been suspended, but I caught a reference to this web site. Do you know anything about it?

  6. Carlos says:

    It should be law that anything, and I do mean ANYTHING, that those buffoons foist upon the citizens of the country is just as applicable to them. That would include not only the health “care”, but also carbon footprint laws, taxes (where “honorariums” are treated as regular income and includes the real cost of travel to-and-from), and even making public such things as parking tickets, speeding tickets and prostitution busts for all members, not just the Republicans.

    Except for liable laws applicable to speeches in the Congress, I find no reason any of them should be “more equal than others”, including the POTUS and VP.

  7. Lorica says:

    Government employees have health care coverage far superior to what is offered the rest of us even today on the open market.

    This isn’t true Mary. As far as Federal Employees go, the Gov. is to lazy to do it’s due diligence and actually sit down with the insurance companies and come up with some decent plans. Right now they have this crazy mixed up thing called a cafeteria plan, where 50 different companies vie for our dollars. It is a mess and not very good either.

    I had way better insurance in the private sector. Almost as good as the new American Royalty, we use to call our Senators and Representatives.

    As far as retirement goes, the old system CSRS was paid for mostly by it’s employees. The new system is a Social Security/401K plan, not at all different from what the private sector has. – Lorica

  8. Fletch says:

    Neo-

    Perhaps they should require that the proceeds from books penned by public officials or about their time as public officials be taxed at the 100% rate.

    I thought it was already illegal for a criminal to earn a profit for a book about their crimes…
    :d

  9. TheBad says:

    “marybel Government employees have health care coverage far superior to what is offered the rest of us even today on the open market.”

    That not necessary true about state employee’s. I have a few friends that work for the state and from what they say, there insurance sucks.

    I agree if this passes then ALL fed and state employees should be part of it. I think a lot of the states are looking forward to this, as it would allow them to dump their health care more on a fed level instead of the state itself.

  10. Carlos says:

    Just so, Lorica, but the real problem is the pension plan the “citizen representatives” have given themselves. Can’t recall a whole bunch of private industry companies that dole out to their former employees what the Sens and Reps have voted for themselves – all in the name of attracting the “best and the brightest”. And that is, in most cases, even if they’ve left office in shame, and for sure if they were just voted out.

    If Dodd, Kennedy, Reid, Pelosi and Boxer represent the “best and the brightest” of our citizenry, we’re in a lot worse shape than even I suspected.

  11. Lorica says:

    Just so, Lorica, but the real problem is the pension plan the “citizen representatives” have given themselves

    Now that is a wholly different kettle of fish. I sort of address this in my 2nd paragraph when I talk about the new American Royalty. I personally think that there should be a 12 year term limit, and no retirement plan for these guys. Also, any pay raise or insurance benefits should only be set by a vote of the people. In what world does the employee tell the employer when they deserve a pay raise?? It is just idiotic. – Lorica

  12. Brad Thibadaux says:

    If it was a requirement that all members of Congress be enrolled in the Obama health care pla, I’m sure that the rush to make a decision would slow down dramatically. If the Obama plan is so good, Congress should lead by example and should be the first to enroll. Better yet, let Congress enroll first and after two years they would be in a better position to evaluate the plan and make a wise decision based on their own personal experience.

  13. CZ says:

    If I was in that room I would have thrown my shoes at him.:>

  14. Carlos says:

    “In what world does the employee tell the employer when they deserve a pay raise?? It is just idiotic.”

    Ummmm, GM (Government Motors)?

  15. Lorica says:

    Well we will see what happens there Carlos. The Government has yet to negotiate a union contract with itself. LOL :o) Which really should be fun to watch. =)) – Lorica

  16. Carlos says:

    It occurs to me the donk party is just chock full of nuts. There’s the clown from Minnesota, the Joker that forgot only a part of her makeup as Speaker, and, best of all, the VP who blazes new trails down his own throat daily.

    If the consequences for the rest of us weren’t so serious it really would be a laugh riot.