Surprise: Obama administration starts floating the idea of a VAT

Posted by: ST on April 7, 2010 at 8:20 am

Via the NY Post:

Acknowledging it would be a highly unpopular move, White House economic adviser Paul Volcker said yesterday the United States should consider imposing a “value added tax” similar to those charged in Europe to help get the deficit under control.

A VAT is a national sales tax that, like state and city sales taxes, would be collected by retailers.

Volcker, at the New-York Historical Society, told a panel on the global financial crisis that Congress might also have to consider new taxes on carbon and energy.

The VAT suggestion was immediately met with outrage by Republicans.

“It shouldn’t surprise anyone that the Obama White House would advocate a European-style tax to help finance their European-style government health-care plan,” said Brian Walsh, a spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee.

“When you hear things like this, though, it’s almost as if the Democrats think the American people will forget that we’re in this situation because of their reckless spending agenda.”

Volcker, a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, told the global economic panel that a VAT is “not as toxic an idea as it has been in the past.”

He added, “If, at the end of the day, we need to raise taxes, we should raise taxes.”

The tax has long had backing from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who last year said it is “on the table” for dealing with the country’s fiscal woes.

James Pethokoukis predicted this late last year:

Does President Obama have a secret plan to raise taxes on middle-class Americans — and,well, pretty much everybody else — with a European-style, value-added tax? Actually, it’s not such a big secret. Connect the dots:

1) The joint statement from the just-concluded G20 Summit in Pittsburgh called for balanced global growth — which means Americans must spend less and save more and reduce its budget deficit.

2) That same weekend, John Podesta, co-chairman of Obama’s presidential transition team and an outside White House adviser, tells a Bloomberg reporter that a value-added tax is “more plausible today” than ever, adding that “there’s going to have to be revenue in this budget.” A VAT is a kind of consumption tax.

3) Yesterday, the Center for American Progress, the liberal think tank with close White House ties, holds a conference on the rising national debt. While speaker after speaker — Paul Krugman, Roger Altman, CAP President Podesta (again), Laura Tyson — admits entitlement spending must be reduced, they also agree that taxes must be raised. Altman suggests $400 billion in new tax revenue is needed almost immediately to calm financial market fears, and a VAT would be a great way of doing it. That’s $400 billion a year, by the way, not over ten years.

4) Also, yesterday was the first meeting of President Obama’s tax reform panel led by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker. In a two-part interview with Charlie Rose airing yesterday and today, Volcker says that if Washington can’t get spending under control, either a VAT or a carbon tax would be effective revenue raisers. “Those are two big ones,” he says.

5) As they used to say in the Soviet Union, “It’s no coincidence.” This is also the conclusion of one Washington insider with ties to the White House economic team: “Does this all add up to a trial balloon? Of course, it’s a trial balloon. And I expect the administration will propose major tax reform, including a VAT.”

Obama’s campaign promise to not raise taxes on households making less than $250,000 a year was always considered a joke here inside the Beltway. It’s the economic “consensus” — and this was true even before the financial meltdown and recession — that rising entitlement costs would eventually mean a higher tax burden for the American people.

Maybe it was a joke inside the campaign, too. Since being elected, Obama has raised cigarette taxes and has advocated raising healthcare taxes, energy and small business taxes, in addition to corporate taxes. What’s more, economic advisers like Larry Summers seem eager to get rid of all the Bush tax cuts, not just those on so-called wealthy Americans.

If there’s only one honest thing that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said during her time serving as part of the Obama admnistration, it’s gotta be this, from back in November:

LAHORE: The leadership of Al Qaeda is in Pakistan, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Thursday.

“I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn’t get them if they really wanted to,” she added.

“Maybe that’s the case; maybe they’re not gettable. I don’t know… As far as we know, they are in Pakistan,” Clinton told senior Pakistani newspaper editors in Lahore, AFP reported. “The percentage of taxes on GDP (in Pakistan) is among the lowest in the world… We (the United States) tax everything that moves and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see in Pakistan,” she said.

Darleen Click is short, sweet, and to the point:

Let’s see, Obama expands “entitlements” to consume 1/6 of the American economy, he more than triples the deficit in his first year including a 800+billion dollar “stimulus” and increasing Federal employment and now they want to impose a VAT and an energy tax to cover it all.

Never let a crisis go to waste?

Welcome to Euromerica!

Yes. It’s a scary thought indeed when you think that Obama is trying to out-Europe Europe.

Ruby Slippers has much, much more on the prospect of this administration implementing a VAT, and points to this piece Charles Krauthammer wrote about it a couple of weeks ago:

But this won’t be nearly enough. As Obama has repeatedly insisted, the real money is in health care costs — which are now locked in place by the new Obamacare mandates.

That’s where the value-added tax comes in. For the politician, it has the virtue of expediency: People are used to sales taxes, and this one produces a river of revenue. Every 1 percent of VAT would yield up to $1 trillion a decade (depending on what you exclude — if you exempt food, for example, the yield would be more like $900 billion).

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Obama set out to be a consequential president, on the order of Ronald Reagan. With the VAT, Obama’s triumph will be complete. He will have succeeded in reversing Reaganism. Liberals have long complained that Reagan’s strategy was to starve the (governmental) beast in order to shrink it: First, cut taxes — then ultimately you have to reduce government spending.

Obama’s strategy is exactly the opposite: Expand the beast, and then feed it. Spend first — which then forces taxation. Now that, with the institution of universal health care, we are becoming the full entitlement state, the beast will have to be fed.

And the VAT is the only trough in creation large enough.

As a substitute for the income tax, the VAT would be a splendid idea. Taxing consumption makes infinitely more sense than taxing work. But to feed the liberal social-democratic project, the VAT must be added on top of the income tax.

Ultimately, even that won’t be enough. As the population ages and health care becomes increasingly expensive, the only way to avoid fiscal ruin (as Britain, for example, has discovered) is health care rationing.

It will take a while to break the American populace to that idea. In the meantime, get ready for the VAT. Or start fighting it.

Let the fight begin.

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  1. Paul says:

    Obama is like a slick snake oil salesman – always smiling,so you better watch your pocket book !

  2. Chris says:

    Typical Democratic reponse. Instead of even contemplating a reduction in government spending, they have to get into power by lying about not-taxing the “middle class” (in Obama’s case the no taxes for anyone under 250k, etc..), and then they have to find a way to sneak in new taxes (or in Obama’s case just completely ignore his campaign pledge).

    When will the middle class learn that no matter what Democrats tell them, they are always about taxing and spending.

  3. Dante says:

    Not surprising. Tax spend, tax spend. Thats all Obama knows now to do.

  4. your mama says:

    I swear,what next,hurry up 2012.

  5. Vince says:

    One of my mentors told me a slogan; The right to swing your fist ends at my nose.
    How many bloody noses do the American people have to suffer before they can swing back?

  6. Betty Hunt says:

    Why am I amazed at how blatant is the misuse of our constitution by this government. How did so many snakes get into power? In the past when totalitarian governments sought to enslave their people, there was always the U.S. that could come to their rescue. Who will save us? God help us.

  7. Lorica says:

    Any VAT should be able to be beat down as unconstitutional. The 16th amendment clearly says the Federal Government can tax incomes, and that alone. But these guys will try it anyway. God knows that some of the idiots on the SCOTUS couldn’t read the Constitution let alone understand it.

    To Paul Vocker: Dear Sir, the best way for the American People to end our deficit, is by stop voting for Democrats who become crazy from their power lust, and then proceed to act like what they lied to the American People about during the campaign should have no consequences. For the American People to stop voting for RINOs as they tend to be more about whats good for them and could careless about whats best for the country…i.e. Arlen Specter comes to mind. Low life puke that he is. Basically, if they don’t have a proven track record of conservative principles, they should just bugger off, and quit annoying us with their lies. – Lorica

  8. Kate says:

    Okay, this is no surprise, and it is no comfort to know that this day would eventually come with this administration. Every working man, woman and child should take April 15 off and march on Washington….call it a Tax Strike. Isn’t that what the French folks do to protest?

    Hey truckers out there….block I-95…people stand in the intersections…..anything to make it plain to these rats in congress and in the white house that enough is enough. Stop the ridiculous spending spree and return our country to a sound economic footing.

  9. bill glass says:

    C’mon! It’s European! What could go wrong?

  10. ZippyTheWerewolf says:

    Sounds like a vat of cow pies to me. And as for his stimulus..what he needs is a nice cattle prod stimulus administered promptly. He is a punk bully..and a host of other things. Who the hell does he think he is? Am I shocked? Not in the least. I’m disgusted, appalled and angrier than hell at every breath this piece of trash takes.

  11. John A says:

    Of course, none of the taxes already applied to goods will be dropped.

    And, well, what will it mean for us? OK, assume a 6% VAT. Now think of it being applied every time something changes ownership. Think of how often wheat, say, changes ownership from farm to the bread you buy at the store – and you probably have a new price double the old, even if the final sale as food is exempted, as it is from my State’s sales tax. So now think about a TV, or a car…

  12. Steve Skubinna says:

    Just wait for the explosion of racist hate speech… remember, anyone who objects to more taxes is a racist. Who hates children.