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"People are saying what in the world is going on with North Carolina, we look like Mississippi." - NC Gov. Bev Perdue (D) on the passage of Amendment One, 5-11-12
100,000 SC Democrats had their Vic Rawl votes ‘stolen’?
That’s the latest speculation coming from SC – the Vic Rawl campaign specifically – over Alvin Greene’s surprise US Senate nomination win:
On Friday South Carolina authorities launched a formal investigation into Greene’s unlikely win. The campaign of his vanquished opponent, Vic Rawl, said it too is looking into reports across the state from voters and poll workers who “experienced problems with voting for whom they intended.”
A Rawl campaign spokesman said he believes that the outcome of Tuesday’s election is “statistically impossible” and “South Carolinians would rather be 100 percent right than 90 percent uncertain.” Greene won with about 60 percent of the vote.
Uh, re: those “reports from across the state” – they’re kidding, right? Sounds to me like the Rawl campaign is hinting at some statewide conspiracy to have voters unknowingly pick the wrong candidate.
Greene’s “mental capacity” is also being questioned by another SC Dem:
A South Carolina lawmaker on Sunday suggested that new Democratic Senate nominee Alvin Greene may be intellectually incapable of participating in the general election race.
State Rep. Todd Rutherford told Fox News that he went to Greene’s house to discuss with him how Greene succeeded last week in becoming the candidate to challenge Republican Sen. Jim DeMint in the November election, but he found it difficult to decipher an answer.
“About two questions into a conversation with him, it would become apparent that he is not probably fit to answer the questions befitting a Senate candidate,” said Rutherford, a Democrat. “If he was put into this, then it is a joke that is funny to all the rest of us, but he doesn’t get it — because I don’t know that his mental status is such that he can get it.”
Rutherford said he asked Greene whether his honorable but involuntary discharge from the U.S. Army last August was related to his mental state.
“When I asked him whether they had checked his mental health status, he seemed to suggest that doing so brought about racist implications and other things. He kind of ducked the issue,” said Rutherford.
Rutherford added that based on his conversation with Greene about his military service he got the impression that Greene could have decided to spend the $10,400 needed to enter the South Carolina race, but “I doubt it very seriously.”
To add to all the crazy conspiracy theories floating around about how Alvin Greene was selected by SC Dem voters to be their nominee for the US Senate, state Senator Robert Ford (D) hurled ugly accusations at ‘establishment’ SC Democrats – white and black – last Friday over the fact that he wasn’t chosen by the voters to be their nominee in the Governor’s race:
(CNN) – The combustible issue of race was at play once again in South Carolina Thursday as an unsuccessful African-American gubernatorial candidate griped that Democratic leaders in the state are running the party “like a plantation at the expense of black candidates.”
In a letter [pdf] to members of the South Carolina Legislative Black Caucus and obtained by CNN, state Sen. Robert Ford complained about fellow black legislators who lined up behind the Democratic frontrunner and eventual nominee, state Sen. Vincent Sheheen, who is white.
Though he said he has “love and respect” for Sheheen, Ford said he is “going to be bitter for a long time” about the outcome of the governor’s race and went on to blast younger black legislators who “could care less about civil rights.”
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Ford griped that it was an “outright disgrace” and “a slap in the face to African-Americans in this state” that other black leaders did not support him “for the sake of the party.”
He said white party elders like state Sen. John Land, former party chairman Dick Harpootlian and former Gov. Jim Hodges are running the party “like a plantation.”
“Uncle Tom was alive and well before, during and after the Negro and African-American struggle in this country and obviously he is still alive today,” Ford wrote.
Ford was the SC Dem legislator who last week suggested this in response to why Alvin Greene won the primary:
State Sen. Robert Ford, D-Charleston, who lost his gubernatorial bid Tuesday, said race could have played a role. The Democratic primary electorate is majority black, as is Greene, but not Rawl. “Vic Rawl had money, but he didn’t have enough. He wasn’t able to identify himself with black voters,” Ford said. “No white folks have an ‘e’ on the end of Green. The blacks after they left the plantation couldn’t spell, and they threw an ‘e’ on the end.”
So let’s see if I can get all the possible explanations straight:
Greene, a “plant,” got picked as the nominee because of one or more of the following reasons:
1) He’s black.
2) He has an “e” on the end of his last name.
3) His name appeared first on the ballot.
4) In a state where the GOP gubernatorial race was competitive, at least 35,000 Republicans chose a Democrat ballot in order to vote for Alvin Greene so incumbent Senator Jim DeMint, already a favorite for re-election, wouldn’t face a ‘tough fight’ in the general election.
5) There was a statewide conspiracy to ‘steal’ Vic Rawl’s votes away from him and have those who wanted him elected instead unknowingly vote for Greene.
Did I miss anything?
Please feel free to add your list of possible explanations in the comments.
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So, Rawl is claiming there may have been a conspiracy to rig the selection of the nominee for a race in which any Democratic nominee is a sure loser and sacrificial victim?
Uh, yeah. Right.
I especially liked the part where Rutherford stated Greene (with an ‘e’) ‘ducked the issue’..hmm seems to me he should be working with Obama outright.
Just love how they’re scratching their heads and drawing conclusion after conclusion about how this little picadillo could have occurred.
Look, the Dems need to wisen up and realize that Alvin Greene reflects the organizational and intellectual capacity of their party.
They voted for a fool.
Case closed.
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C’mon, people. The answer is right in front of your nose: Its Bush’s fault!
LOL @ Drew–I was waiting for someone to blame Bush!
OK, let’s see if we can straighten this out.
Obama was elected because white (gullible) voters gave him the “guilt” vote.
Greene was nominated because he’s black.
Ford wasn’t nominated because he’s black and, like Greene, had the same Democrat voters available that Greene had.
Face it. There are only three real explanations available. Either Democrat voters are too stupid to know how to vote (especially if they don’t vote for the “establishment” candidate), or Democrat voters are too stupid to vote (especially if they DO vote for the “establishment” candidate), or they voted the way they saw fit and the Democrat “establishment” is too stupid to know that.
I know where my guess would be, and it doesn’t lay blame on stupid voters.
Just an extension of thought processes out of D.C.
“When I asked him whether they had checked his mental health status, he seemed to suggest that doing so brought about racist implications and other things. He kind of ducked the issue,” said Rutherford.
Sounds to me like he is a born politician, especially a Democratic politician.
You forgot one excuse. Greene was a plant. Some bucks-up REPUBLICAN gave Greene the money to register.
Also his dd214 could be Armyspeak for “Up or out.” The military has a policy that basically says, if you don’t make your next rank in the time alloted it’s aydios brutha.
I question the mental competence of all Democrats.
Greene should fit in well, able to speak with stellar Democrat talents like Maxine Waters on a even level.
I just channeled Jim Garrison and he thinks it was the Warren Commission, Cuban exiles, the mafia, Dallas police, F.B.I, and J. Edgar Hoover (also channeled).
Perhaps more of a blockbuster-type story is how one-sided the absentee votes are in comparison to the polling site voters. Democrats have been winning, on the Gregoire model, the absentee voting wars every election cycle, so perhaps the machine was on automatic for the party’s man. Will the machine perform similarly for Mr. Greene? How many absentee voters will be casting a ballot for Mr. Greene now that he is the certified official candidate?
And the Army is just now starting to discuss returning to using the Retention Control Points (RCP: too much time at the same paygrade leads to discharge) as a quality control measure. I last saw it used in the first week of September, 2001. It fell by the wayside as trained manpower requirements became enforced for the war. A DD Form 214 Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty is not Armyspeak for an RCP.
So far, seems only Mr. Greene is willing to credit the voters of South Carolina for giving him the thumbs up, and the party’s man a big thumbs down.
Greene with an “e” at the end is a common name among white folks, too. At least it is up north. Democrats would do well to sort this out quietly before talking. Speculating without having any hard facts is making the Democrats look much more foolish than poor Mr. Greene.
How about:
6) Democrat primary voters are basically stupid people, and they were simply nominating someone who represents them perfectly.
I wonder if anyone’s thought about the simplest explanation there is-maybe the dems in SC just really did not like Rawl?
It is really hard to see just why the Repubs would need to resort to a plant when it is very doubtful Vic Rawls would be a threat to DeMint ( lindsey Graham maybe). Clyburn and Rawls are barking about a conspiracy to cover up not vetting a canidate that is facing criminal charges.My own theory about his running and current refusal to step aside ( concidering his impending trial) is that he is trying to muddy the waters of jury selection. Most potential juriors will have either voted for him or concider him the biggest jackass in the State so would be disqualified
Blacks shouldnt have been allowed to vote?
I think my favorite was from Sen Ford. “when they left the plantations they couldn’t spell, put an “e” on the end” (not complete quote)? So if you can’t spell the name, “Green” or any other name for that matter, you throw an “e” on the end? I guess he never stopped to think that the e on the end was meant to distinguish themselves from other families with the name of Green. What a simpleton and racist thing to say.
I’ve heard Mr. Greene speak; he stumbles. Perhaps he’s not eloquent, embarrassed and unpracticed to speak in public, unprepared. The Dems haven’t got the brightest constituency, never have had. The elitists politicos need to feel superior to their voter base, their egos depend on it.
It was da Joooooooooos! (Aren’t they responsible for all conspiracies? Assuming that the Jesuits have given up on such things.)PS. Whoever did it, you’re a racist.
Albert, Alvin? Green, Greene? Potato, potahto? South Carolinian Democrats may not be able to spell too good, but they do know that Alvin the Chipmunk and Al Green are both way better singers than Vic Rawl and Jim DeMint.
Hilarious!
Call me Zippye. with an “e”.
Does this e make my buh buh butt look fat?
Mr. Rawl should perhaps consider that his statewide name recognition was only in the upper teens and his approval ratings were a dismal five percent. The question than becomes how could anyone not beat him. If he really wants to keep embarrassing himself, he couldn’t find much of a better way to do so than constantly reminding people he was defeated by an unknown individual who did zero campaigning to speak of.
And I still say Greene messed up and filed for the wrong race. He was supposed to file for State Senate or US House of Representatives. That explains why no one stepped up with any campaign money for him even though somebody obviously paid his filing fee. No one would purposely waste a dime on this guy for such a lost cause. DeMint didn’t need his help, he would run over either two of these losers in the fall.
Greene might have made a big difference however in the US House of Representatives race. If he had actually campaigned to the extent that he drained support from JIm Clyburn, enough to encourage Clyburn’s other opponent to step up her efforts, and it resulted in her or Greene defeating Clyburn-the House Majority Whip-that would be money well spent even if it didn’t result in the election of the Christian white conservative, Mrs. Harrelson, in the general election.
The main thing is, Clyburn would be gone. But Greene had to screw up and file for the wrong race.