UW student senate will vote again on memorial

On Tuesday, I blogged about the University of Washington’s Student Senate voting down of a proposal to build a memorial honoring Congressional Medal of Honor recipient Gregory “Pappy” Boyington, an alumnus of UW. UW student body President Lee Dunbar mentioned in a letter here that another memorial was under consideration that would include, in addition to Boyington, four other UW Congressional Medal of Honor recipients. That has been confirmed:

SEATTLE – The University of Washington Student Senate is expected to vote again on a memorial to honor five former students awarded Congressional Medals of Honor.

Earlier this month the Senate deadlocked 45-45 on a proposal to honor Gregory “Pappy” Boyington. The student president then cast the deciding vote “No”.

Now the student who proposed the campus memorial is suggesting honoring all five former students and some members of the Senate tell KOMO 4 News that is more likely to pass.

Hat tip: Karl Swenson

21 Responses to "UW student senate will vote again on memorial"

Big Bang Hunter says:

February 18, 2006 at 11:04 am

– Personally I welcome this sort of dustup, because it gives the young impressionable minds, ensconched in the crsytal towers of higher education, a chance early on to see how embarrassing it can be to take everything your Liberal poly-sci professor dishes out in “anti-American studies 301” litterily. But thats what life is all about really. Figuring out everyones “agenda” and learning to think for yourself. It used to be called “growing up”, probably still is in honest circles of real adult debate.

– Bang
steve says:

February 18, 2006 at 11:18 am

Hunter, thats crap. The Canadians are building a memorial depicting two American draft dogers, a man and a women. Now that’s a statue that we can all get behind. Peace
Big Bang Hunter says:

February 18, 2006 at 12:34 pm

I would imagine from the tone of most of your posts you spend a lot of time “getting behind” things Steve….

If you want to move to Canada, I’d support that….

– Bang
Mwalimu Daudi says:

February 18, 2006 at 1:19 pm

Ironic. Once upon a time the Far Left considered World War II a just and holy war against fascism. But the hatred that drives the Far Left is cosmic and all-consuming, and now it is being turned on the soldiers who kept the world free from Hitler.

Maybe the University of Washington Student Senate has decided that since Bush is Hitler, Hitler could not have been Hitler. I guess that makes WWII an unjust and illegal war. Poor little Schickelgruber – another innocent victim of the neocons!
camojack says:

February 18, 2006 at 1:50 pm

As I heard it so eloquently expressed elsewhere on this issue:
“Why do you think they call it the Left Coast?!”
Steve Skubinna says:

February 18, 2006 at 2:10 pm

“… two American draft dodgers, a man and a woman.”

Uh huh. What about the draft dodger in the wheelchair? Why’d they leave him/her out?
Steve Skubinna says:

February 18, 2006 at 2:15 pm

Incidentally, I have concluded steve is kidding. We’ve all fallen for a hoax in assuming he’s serious.
Big Bang Hunter says:

February 18, 2006 at 2:21 pm

– I tend to cut Steve a lot of slack because I suspect he’s the ghost of lost elections past posting under a non de’plume’….

– Bang
Pat says:

February 18, 2006 at 2:52 pm

“â€¦ two American draft dodgers, a man and a woman.”

Maybe I have it wrong, but were women subject to the draft? Granted I was a kid, but I remember it differently.
steve says:

February 18, 2006 at 4:33 pm

Hunter, was that an intolerant invective about being gay? Or as Oscar Wilde once said, “A gentleman never insults anyone unintentionally”. Peace
Big Bang Hunter says:

February 18, 2006 at 5:12 pm

– No Steve – It was a direct comment on the fact you guys have such a wonderous and geometrically perfect way of looking at things its just a terrible trick of fate that somehow you keep getting your butts kicked at the ballot box. I tend not to mince words if I can help it, unintentionally or otherwise.

– Bang
forest hunter says:

February 19, 2006 at 2:35 am

Steve, your going to be late for your incoherency class. Put the Hookah down and go wash your acne infested theories.

What will you be behind when these Islamo pukes show up at your high school and burn it down? What part of being behind has you so confused?
forest hunter says:

February 19, 2006 at 2:40 am

A perfect analysis Big Bang Hunter……Reality is ssoooo elusive.
Hopefully, it will be rethought more for the right reasons as opposed to the “Uh oh, look what we’ve done now. How do we patch it?”
forest hunter says:

February 19, 2006 at 6:48 am

Steve one word—- Epiclear—- look it up in your sisters thesaurus. It won’t be anywhere near invective, cuz it starts with a E!

Are you still under house arrest for the crime of not knowing where you are?
forest hunter says:

February 19, 2006 at 6:54 am

Forty six of the UW drones on the Council want Do ovaries, big surprise there. Better late than never is a common phrase but….
Lorica says:

February 19, 2006 at 9:39 am

Steve when exactly did we draft woman, so that Canada could honor a woman draft dodger???
PCD says:

February 20, 2006 at 9:19 am

I think if the Federal Government pulled all Federal Funding from the U of Washington, the students would grow up real fast, and the 60’s filth that infest the professorate and administration there would boogey on to other gigs.

Now, Greg Boyington is no candidate for saint, but most warriors are not. Peacetime is not an environment where they florish. Still, the students did him a dishonor in the way they debated and acted upon the memorial proposal.

I doubt many here have EVER read Boyington’s book or even knows what he looked like. The TV series about the “Black Sheep” was a distortion of Boyington and the “Sheep”. I doubt that anyone debating this even knew that Boyington lived long enough to actually appear in a cameo role on the series as a Marine General in ONE episode.
GBA says:

February 20, 2006 at 10:06 am

This was always more about who was going to pay then who and what it is for.

So a decision to collect from the alumni is always better than robbing the schools treasury.

Had the alumni first put up the cash this would not even be an issue.
PCD says:

February 20, 2006 at 11:34 am

From One Who Knew Pappy Boyington

GBA, this is not about who pays for things, it is about who you honor and why. The whekps and punks at the U of Washington don’t know squat. They are all running for the heat generated by their outspoken ignorance.

To you I suppose it is ok to rob the student treasury to make Michael Moore richer and fatter, but not to honor POOR People who aren’t all white because you and your ilk baum your consciences with calling him a rich white man. For your information, Boyington was poor and part Sioux indian.
Mike Engen says:

February 21, 2006 at 10:40 pm

Pappy Boyington a rich white guy? Where do these folks go to school? The guy struggled with all the problems associated with alcoholism for most of his life and had a tough time holding a job. To his credit he finally overcame his problems with the help of his wife. This is the kind of guy who would never make it in our peaceful world but always seems to rise to the top when they’re needed.
The University of Washington should be honored to have him as a alumni.
A 15 YEAR OLD BOY says:

March 26, 2006 at 10:33 am

I was 15 years old when I read Pappy Boyington’s book. Over the years it has had a profound effect on me. I was always the black sheep of our family.

In part, because of the book, I became a pilot, a successful business man and no longer the black sheep of the family.

In 1986 I saw Pappy Boyington at the annual Experimental aircraft fly in. He was at a desk signing his book. At the time he was all alone. I wanted to go up and thank him, but I was too in awe of this great man. I did not go and tell him how much he had done for me through his book. For that I shall never forgive myself. Not for not having met him, but for not letting him know how much good he did for young men like myself trying to find themselves.

NOW:–TO YOU YOUNG STUDENTS AT THE U OF W

I don’t want to rag on you for what you do or do not know. I just want you to ask yourself a simple question—

You say you don’t want to honor a guy who killes people, a rich white guy? Forget all that.

Can you honor a young man sitting alone, ALL ALONE, in an airplane over the pacific ocean at 20,000′, knowing that he has to kill or be killed, knowing that if he is shot down, he will probably drown or be eaten by sharks? His country asked him to do that. Not once, but day after day! for his fellow countrymen, for his county, and yes, for you. He, and 1000,s others did the same.

Honor him. Honor them. Know it or not, you owe them, you owe him. (BIGTIME!)

So—even though it may be a little late,

THANKS PAPPY, YOU DID GOOD, VERY GOOD!

A 15 YEAR OLD BOY, WHO REMEMBERS.

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