Conservative base turned out – it was Independents who went the other way

Posted by: Sister Toldjah on November 8, 2006 at 9:11 am

Just checking out some national exit poll numbers because I was curious to see the party affiliation breakdown of who voted:

About the same number of independents showed up at the polls today as in the last presidential election. This swing-voting group, that both parties battled fiercely to capture, backed Democrats over Republicans by approximately 20 points.

Republicans were relatively successful in energizing their base; conservatives accounted for 32 percent of all voters today, down just 2 percentage points from 34 percent in 2004.

Here’s a more in-depth look at that exit poll.

What lessons do we learn from this? I think Hugh Hewitt has the best take, and Malkin’s right that conservatism last night did not lose (she provides some examples). Other examples are the fact that the Dems had to recruit moderate to conservative candidates to win in races they normally wouldn’t. Heath Shuler upsetting 8-term incumbent House Republican Charles Taylor here in NC is a perfect example. Shuler is not a liberal Democrat. He’ll be moderate at best. The NYT, in their October 28th article describing how Democrats were running conservative candidates in an effort to win in places they normally would not, described Shuler as “… an evangelical Christian [who] holds fast to many conservative social views, like opposition to abortion rights.”

Even at that, I think the Democrats would have won control of the House anyway. Running those conservative Democrat candidates just helped pad the lead. Clearly, the country was dissatisfied with the way the war in Iraq has been handled, the corruption in DC, and in response – to be cliche – voted for “change.” Thankfully, House terms are only two years long, and hopefully two years of a Democratic House will change the minds of the American people who thought yesterday that having a Democratic majority in the House would make the problems we face be effectively resolved.

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Additional thoughts: While last night was obviously disappointing from the perspective of losing the House badly (and possibly losing the Senate as well), I can’t get tell you how disappointed I was to discover this morning that the fraudulent Amendment 2 in Missouri passed. In effect, Missouri has just legalized cloning.

The pro-A2 crowd there should be ashamed of themselves for pulling the wool over the eyes of MO voters on an issue as complicated as embryonic stem cell research. But I know they won’t be ashamed, because if you can’t feel shame over the fact that you endorse cloning embroyos in order to destroy them, you certainly won’t feel any from hoodwinking voters. The passage of this amendment could have national implications, with other states possibly looking to enact similar laws. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (it really hurts to say that) is also going to make stem cell research (in general terms) a priority right off the bat, and rest assured she is going to be just as deceptive about it as demagogue Claire McCaskill and the others like her who pushed for it under the guise of “supporting cures” while painting opponents as wanting sick people to die.

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    1. ST – They’re already screeching and ranting about the bastard “Blue dog Dems” over at the LiarDogFake swamp. There’s apparently been a running gun battle with the Dem campaign leadership, calling their own leader, Rahm Emanuel Delay, and accussing him of taking all the “credit” Hampsher and Kos deserve in the election results.

      - This from the gaggle of misfits that managed the only loss yesterday. Lunacy run amok. It would appear that the hard Left should try another line of work…

      - Bang **==

    2. G Monster says:

      If it wasn’t for FireDog and Kos, I might have actually voted for 1 democratic on the California Ticket yesterday. Alot of dems I know, actually voted for Arnold. They think he is doing a great job.

    3. GM – Believe it or not, almost all my Dem friends think, and have always thought, the hard left are a bunch of ideolog lunatics. I suppose that would make them “Blue dog Dems” also, which might hammer home just how small, and insignificant, the gaggle of moonbats really is. Just because they p[lay on the laim-brain MSM meme of “If it bleeds, it leads” for a lot of media face time, hardly reflects the true size of their following. It was bound to happen sooner or later, that their true influence, or rather lack there of, would float to the surface. They’re 0 for everything they’ve ever touched, and I think the core Dem party will be dumping their yoke of unhelpfullness, now that the Dems are back in power.

      - You’re starting to see it already, and thats why all the screeching, hair pulling, and rending of clothes. They know full well what they lost with the Lieberman mess, and in yesterdays elections. Most of the Dem candidate winners are very much more moderate than left wing. Yesterday was a win for “centrists”, loud and clear, not the hard left. the biggest lesson to the Dem party leadership, is what they could have won, if only they would have played it centrust for the past 6 years instead of allowing all the moonbat craziness. Your comment concerning your vote is exactly what the dems will be cautious about from here on in. The hard Lefts days are all but over.

      - Bang **==

    4. Lorica says:

      Here’s your answer Ed. 6 out of 7 ballot initiatives banned same sex marriage. In 2004 it was 11 out of 12 states. You are pointing fingers and making excuses that just don’t add up. – Lorica

    5. Lorica says:

      Whooops I stand corrected Ed. Baklava just showed me it was 7 outta 8 states. – Lorica

    6. John Cook says:

      It would seem the opposition party did its job and just as the founding fathers designed it, were able to put the brakes on a Congress that had abdicated its duty of oversight of the Executive branch. Don’t despair, the pendulum will swing back when the Democrats fall prey to the glamour of power. Is this a great country or what?

      :)>-

    7. Baklava says:

      John Cook wrote, “abdicated it’s duty of oversight of the Executive Branch”

      What needed oversight that didn’t get oversight?

      Don’t get trapped with your false accusations….

    8. tom says:

      What needed oversight that didn’t get oversight?

      Are you serious?

      1. War profiteering by Blackwater, CACI, Titan and Halliburton(no-bid contracts). Even military generals (Batiste, Eaton) have called for more oversight from Congress here.

      2.Senate (Un)Intelligence Committe refusing to investigate anything at all. They still haven’t completed the investigation on pre-ware intelligence. Domestic wire taps? Nope. In 2004, Sen. DeWine said, “I think there’s a general consensus among at least the Senate Intelligence Committee that we have not historically done as good a job in oversight as we should have.” Oh really, Mike?

      3.Katrina: Repubs refused a call for an independent commission to investigate this disaster

      4.Medicare Part D REAL cost. Administration underrepresented to Congress the cost of this by over $100 bil. Calls for investigations shot down.

      just to name a few. The biggest news out of this election is not the extra votes and whether the Blue Dogs are going to tow the line. That doesn’t matter, it’s still basically a split. The big news is the taking of all the committe chairmanships. Let the oversight begin!

    9. Tom – you need to drop the Halliburton meme from your list….that one is specious…. No one else would or could bid most of those so called “no-bid” contracts. That is unless you just think no one should do the bids at all. This is what the talking points fails to tell you when you just read them off verbatum.

      - In thier zeal to find something to hang on big business, most SecProggs are unaware that a lot of the contracts that Halliburton accepts are so big no one else wants them. Do a little research. Helps your arguments.

      - Bang **==

    10. Baklava says:

      He’ll keep making accusations Bang. Same ole same ole. It’s human nature. I guess it makes people feel good to have so much judgmentalism.

      #4) EVERY or MOST programs developed by the government including the ORIGINAL Medicare in the 60’s (who controlled Congress then) was UNDERrepresented in how much it’d cost America. I WOULD LOVE to see us open that can of worms… but alas neither Democrats or Republicans will and journalists sure won’t. Because then they would have to admit that EVERY major category of spending has an increase in spending every year for over 6 decades. Most Americans don’t know this (because journalists FAIL) and actually think there are cuts some years in some categories of spending.

      #3) Katrina was a disaster. The root cause? Mother nature. Journalists went into over drive against republicans during this catastrophe when government on all levels FAILED. There are also examples of government stepping up to the plate and doing A WHOLE BUNCH for the people who were affected by Katrina. It’s a big article but you should read it. Here is one excerpt:

      In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest–and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm’s landfall.

      Dozens of National Guard and Coast Guard helicopters flew rescue operations that first day–some just 2 hours after Katrina hit the coast. Hoistless Army helicopters improvised rescues, carefully hovering on rooftops to pick up survivors. On the ground, “guardsmen had to chop their way through, moving trees and recreating roadways,” says Jack Harrison of the National Guard. By the end of the week, 50,000 National Guard troops in the Gulf Coast region had saved 17,000 people; 4000 Coast Guard personnel saved more than 33,000.

      I know the drive-by legacy media has made MANY people think that so many investigations should happen. We should even investigate why no hurricanes made U.S. mainland this year contrary to the predictions of drive-by legacy media last year. But things are as they are and things have been this way for decades/centuries. There are people who try and try to get things right and people who try and don’t quite succeed. They are not negligent. They aren’t prosecutable….

      The only thing I can understand people thinking is prosecutable is whether or not the Bush administration has overstepped constitutional authority during the WOT. But Bush is operating under past precedence (like Lincoln and FDR) and explaining (to you and journalists who don’t listen) where he thinks he is getting the authority from. Instead of engaging on that level…. EVERY leftists and journalist accusing him of abusing authority has IGNORED Bush’s and legal experts opinions and brought a laundry list JUST LIKE YOU. It’s more BDS with a helping of a lack of perspective and research. I do not wish to offend you here. I hope you take to heart what I wrote…… do some due diligence maybe.

    11. - While you’re at it Bak, maybe you could explain to me what the hell Katrina has to do with disscussing voter demographics, except in some Uber nuanced way. Or maybe we should just blame Bush for causing that 8000 mile in diameter Storm CIT/NASA scientists discovered on Saturn the other day:

      - Huge ‘hurricane’ rages on Saturn

      A hurricane-like storm, two-thirds the diameter of Earth, is raging at Saturn’s south pole, new images from Nasa’s Cassini space probe reveal.
      Measuring 5,000 miles (8,000km) across, the storm is the first hurricane ever detected on a planet other than Earth.

      Scientists say the storm has the eye and eye-wall clouds characteristic of a hurricane and its winds are swirling clockwise at 350mph (550km/h).

      However, unlike Earth hurricanes it seems stuck at the pole, not drifting.

      “It looks like a hurricane, but it doesn’t behave like a hurricane” Dr Andrew Ingersoll, a member of Cassini’s imaging team at the California Institute of Technology said. “Whatever it is, we’re going to focus on the eye of this storm and find out why it’s there.”

      Though Jupiter’s Great Red Spot storm moves counter-clockwise, and is far bigger than the storm on Saturn, it does not have the eye and eye-wall that mark out a hurricane.

      An Earth hurricane’s eye and eye-walls form when warm, moist air flows inwards across an ocean’s surface and rapidly rises vertically, dropping heavy rain in a circular band around descending air in the eye.
      But Saturn is a gaseous planet therefore this storm does not have an ocean at its base.

      One Nasa scientist, Michael Flasar, told Reuters news agency that the storm looked just like water swirling down a bath plug hole, only on a colossal scale.

      “We’ve never seen anything like this before” Mr Flasar said. “It’s a spectacular-looking storm.”

      - Saturnians are already blaming the Bush administration for its slow response. “We are still waiting for aid!” said uKluk amerGlk.
      Former Vice President Al Gore blasted the administration for “interplanetary exportation of climate change.” John Kerry opined that such a thing would never have happened on his watch.

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      - SST readers pop-quiz (for your reading enjoyment)

      1)“One Nasa scientist, Michael Flasar, told Reuters news agency that the storm looked just like water swirling down a bath plug hole, only on a colossal scale.”

      2)“We’ve never seen anything like this before” Mr Flasar said. “It’s a spectacular-looking storm.”

      - Select from the following possible comparisons of the above statements (mark only one):

      a) Mutually exclusive.
      b) Complimentary.
      c) Contradictory.
      9) Mr Flasar is a Secular Progressive Martian.
      d) Part of an J. Kerry speech from Starwars.
      e) Part of an A. Gore speech from Starbucks.
      f) Saturnians hate brown people.
      7) G.W.Bush hates brown Saturnians.
      h) All Saturnian boys with blue eyes hate A. Gore.
      i) Nancy Pelosi smells funny.
      j) J. Murtha is a Saturnian drag queen.
      x) It’s Tuesday, so it must be Uranus.
      r) A Dean press conference.
      vv) Greenwalds sock drawer.
      80) That is a problem, and we’re working on it.
      b-part duex) Ummmmmm – banana’s
      xxxix) All of the above.

      (press hard in the marker boxes, the forms are in sextial-quintadarial-femptuplicate).

      - Bang **==

    12. Vanna says:

      If you’re against stem-cell research, then I’m sure you’re also against in vitro fertilization.

      After all, embryos are created, frozen, and if they’re not used (or claimed in those 1-in-6000 “snowflake” babies the right is so drooly about)–well, then, my life-loving friends, they’re just dumped in the trash.

      Embryos die by the THOUSANDS in those murderous IVF clinics.

      Then, multiple embryos are implanted in the life-loving female’s uterus–but not all will survive.

      Yes, some of those wittle tiny embryos will be sucked out and sliced up. Fetuses too—bigger babies, the kind with minuscule hands and feet, the kind that get on the billboards.

      So that mommy can have TWO children–because two is all she wants and feels she can handle–the OTHER children–as many as SIX–must DIE.

      It’s called “selective abortion” and it happens in every IVF birth. Every IVF baby is paid for with the lives of dozens if not hundreds of human embryos.

      Does the hypocrisy of this register on you at all?

    13. Your comparison of embryonic stem cell research via cloning embryos in order to destroy them to in vitro is ludicrous. Embryonic stem cell research in and of itself is one thing, but cloning embryos in order to destroy them is morally wrong and is not something your lame attempt at moral relativism can change.

      It never ceases to amaze me the pretzel logic liberals use in order to justify why they believe in something, and why others shouldn’t.