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Watching Code Pink is torture
Check out this video of Code Pink trying to demonstrate how waterboarding supposedly “really is” torture:
Mike at Flopping Aces notes, the geniuses were pouring water over the “victim’s” eyes, not nose and mouth. Their little demonstration tells people next to nothing about waterboarding but says a lot about the idiots who orchestrated the “torture segment” of their protest.
Oh, and did you hear that Senator Ted Kennedy opposes waterboarding on the grounds that he considers it torture? Weasel Zipper at Stop The ACLU pointed out that Mary Jo Kopechne wasn’t available for comment.
Speaking of alleged “torture,” James Jay Carafano is blogging from GITMO, where getting three squares a day and all the “prayer time” you want is considered torture by the Bush-hating left. You can read Carafano’s first report here.
And Alan Dershowitz has a must-read up in today’s WSJ on Democrats and waterboarding.
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It was probably faked, just like these leftards faked it.
Torture-Should We Do It?
The confirmation hearings for Attorney General-Designate, Michael Mukasey has now been hung up on whether he approves of the practice of water-boarding-a form of interrogation that gives the prisoner the sensation of drowning. This is all part of a larger question: Are we engaging in torture of terrorist prisoners, and if so, is it right?
As a retired law enforcement agent (DEA), this question has a personal ring. Torture is something I never did; it is something I never would have approved of; it is something I have no knowledge of by my colleagues. It is something that is against the very essence of our American culture.
A generation ago, America was accused of having trained Latin American law enforcement and military to practice torture. I thought the idea was laughable. When did Latin Americans need North Americans to teach them how to torture? In reality, they would have to teach us how to do it. Latin Americans learned the art of torture from the Spaniards centuries ago.
I do believe that we as Americans should not engage in this practice for two reasons: First, we are supposed to be the good guys. Second, we want to do everything possible to ensure that our own prisoners are treated according to civilized standards. While I believe that terrorist suspects should not be accorded protections of the Geneva Convention nor the rights of our criminal court system, I feel they should be treated humanely. I would hate to think that we are practicing torture in places like Guantanemo. Is waterboarding torture? Yes, I think it is.
However……….
In 1985, a DEA agent named Enrique Camarena, who was assigned to Guadalajara, Mexico, was kidnapped by Mexican drug lords (assisted by certain elements of the Mexican police) and tortured to death over the course of several days. Camarena’s death and the circumstances of his death have been an emotional issue to DEA agents to this day. DEA was under no illusions as to what Camarena’s fate would be unless he could be rescued. So the question is: Would torture have been justified if DEA or Mexican police had a member of that drug ring in custody who knew where Camarena was being held? In my view, yes. Would I have done it in those circumstances? Yes, I believe I would have. (Someone would have had to show me how.)
The same question arises in the War on Terror. We have seen instances where Americans have been kidnapped overseas by Islamic terrorists, tortured and killed-in some cases by beheading. So if we had someone in custody who knew where one of our people was being held, would torture be justified? Would it be justified if the prisoner knew the details of a terrorist bomb about to go off- perhaps a nuclear device? What would I do? What would you do?
As much as I hate to admit it, I do believe that there may be certain extraordinary instances when torture is justified. Do I have a problem if we are sending terrorist prisoners back to their own countries to face the interrogation methods of their own authorities? (No.) Will this increase the danger of our own prisoners being tortured by Islamic terrorists? They are going to do it no matter what we do. I respect the opinions of those who say we should never engage in torture no matter what. However, I have come to the sad conclusion that we are up against an evil enemy. If, and only if, innocent lives will be saved from terrorists, then, as much as I hate to admit it, I would support the use of torture by Americans. If anyone disagrees, I respect your feelings.
gary fouse
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Curt at Flopping Aces found a great cartoon to go along with the Dershowitz op-ed:
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That video was a real knee-slapper. Ma Feinstein appeared to be more than embarrassed by that pathetic schtick. Heh.
If these pinko-stinkos torture each other enough maybe they can thin out their own herd. Can’t wait until they start beheading each other and taping that too.
That was hilarious!
Is there an option? Cuz I really hate water in my eyezzz’z…..
I would bet that the third grade was probably the last time the entire lot spent five years unattended………hope these drooling morons never discover where the steak knives are stored…er not.
From having been involved with security, the thing that strikes me most apart from the moronic diatribe on phlegm, is what’s missing. I am reminded of when Condi Rice was approached by these very same and seemingly un-jailable wacko’s! The complete and entire lack of security begs the question WHY, ergo complicit behavior.
Cheesy dramatics is what the female Senator modeling the powder blue chair unif….cove….. upholstery is about. Not that playing the chump role for the camera is a crime in and of itself, apart from inflaming the actors guild. But to aid these drones is, in the very least bordering the actions of a lune in need of examination. Hanging out with certifiable nut jobs is apparently one of the pandering tools at hand and as such, further indication of their frustration and ineptitude across the board.
The simple fact that they would waterboard someone for giggles, in a protest demonstration, should be all the proof you need that this is not torture. You don’t see them attaching electrodes to someone’s genitals and shocking the crap out of them, or ripping out their fingernails with pliers do you?
Same with their constant bleating that we live in a repressive dictatorship. Hmmm…last I observed, trying to get yourself arrested to up your street cred and such is not a sport played in real totalitarian states, like N.Korea or Cuba for example. People in real repressive countries know that if you do get arrested you’re likely to be disappeared or tortured for real. Which makes their protests brave, and highlights the wussy aspect of our own home grown hippies, who wouldn’t dare do such a thing if there was a real possibility of them getting stomped with hobnail boots.