Kruggie to Fibbs:
"Rudeness at the proper moment can serve a purpose — as I hope I’ve demonstrated over the years. But if you vent for the sake of venting; if you alienate people you’re going to need; then you’re just being stupid."
-Paul Krugman, NYT columnist & Nobel prize winner - 8/11/10
Posted by: Sister Toldjah on August 24, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Most of us assumed when union thugs answered the call from the Barackopolis to show up in force at the healthcare town halls in a show of “support” for ObamaCare that they were doing it as sort of a “scratch my back, I scratch yours” kinda thing. They supported Democrats heavily during the campaign, and naturally were continuing to do so after Obama’s inauguration. Well, come to find out – the back scratching was on a much grander scale than we thought it was. Via the Detroit Free Press:
WASHINGTON — Antilabor forces say it’s welfare for the UAW and Democrats’ union allies. Labor supporters say it falls short of what’s needed as tens of thousands of union members are pushed into early retirement as employers cut back health care coverage.
They’re both talking about a $10-billion provision tucked deep inside thousands of pages of health care overhaul bills that could help the UAW’s retiree health-care plan and other union-backed plans.
It would see the government — at least temporarily — pay 80 cents on the dollar to corporate and union insurance plans for claims between $15,000 and $90,000 for retirees age 55 to 64.
Big businesses with union workers are twice as likely to offer retiree benefits as nonunion ones.
Greg Mourad of the National Right to Work Committee called it “a shameless case of political payback,” saying Democrats and President Barack Obama are trying “to force the rest of us to pay billions to cover those unions’ health care.”
Labor advocates say even more funding may be needed.
“It is not enough money,” said former U.S. Rep. David Bonior, a Mt. Clemens Democrat who chairs the board at Washington, D.C.-based American Rights at Work, a labor advocacy group. “That will have to be supplemented to fill the gap.”
They must have cut off this part of his quote: “And if that doesn’t happen, Democrats, you can forget about Big Labor continuing to show up on your behalf at town halls in order try and intimidate the opposition.”
OK – no, he didn’t say that, but then again he didn’t really have to.
Of course, this was all entirely predictable, considering for example how the administration threatened to rescind California’s stimulus money if they did not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers, budget cuts that had been approved by the CA legislature back in February. You may remember that a couple of days after that May 8th report came the news that the SEIU “was included in a conference call in which state and federal officials reviewed the wage cut and the terms of the stimulus package.” More:
In addition to several state and federal officials, participants in the April 15 conference call included an SEIU associate general counsel in Washington, a lobbyist for SEIU in California and a representative from SEIU’s policy staff in California, according to a list provided by the Schwarzenegger administration.
And I’m just as sure that, if they thought they could get away with it, the jackasses would slip in an amendment that would “temporarily” suspend the Constitution and make Duh-1 “President-for-Life”.
The really sad thing, though, is how many Republicans would wring their hands and vote for it anyway, since they don’t read the bills they vote on and wouldn’t have a clue.
On the other hand, 95% of D.C. doesn’t have a clue and 95% of the rest of them are willing to sell the clue they have, for a price (and in cold cash!).
The Big Bad Unions continue to play union games in 2009 no less. If these thieving knuckle draggers think there are no spotters out there taking pictures, creating files and approaching this assertively and intelligently then ignorance is bliss I guess. More importantly, today’s antiquated Union’s need to know that the days of Hoffa, et al., are over. It’s just a matter of time before they are convinced this effort of intimidation can be played by those who really know how the game is played.
A quid pro quo? Imagine that! Hi’m shocked, that’s wot I ham, shocked!”
Sorry. Thinking about Gilbert and Sullivan and inadvertantly channeled the Boatswain from HMS Pinafore. But at least I haven’t gone all Dick Deadeye on everyone – uh oh…
Why I keep skipping these demonstrations, Chapter XXII.
I have this knee-jerk reaction to being unarmed. And I get dangerous when attacked.
If I show up at a TownHall meeting, and the SEIU or ACORN decides to start whacking on me, or worse, my wife?
I don’t propose to be the one to start creating the body count, so I’ll just stay home for now, Thank You Very Much. Our side doesn’t need the kind of publicity that we’d get from me and my running buddies showing up at a demonstration where there are “agents-provocateurs”.
I’m writing letters, and saving myself for the serious heavy lifting that may yet eventuate.
I don’t want no trouble, but don’t bring trouble to see me, or things will get ugly. And I’m not the only one thinking that way.
Since my husband has had to be a Teamster to keep his job for many years, we have seen the kind of “justice” the union trustees and leaders dispense among their own. They break work rules regularly where their buddies benefit and if you are not among them, tough cookies, you get the sh** jobs/shifts. They are about making deals with the employer that benefit a few and speak about the brotherhood….bull!
My husband’s seniority was denounced, twice….once wholesale in a bloating and unfair “dovetail” agreement with a dying company being taken over by a healthy one and once again when union hotshots thought he wasn’t worth defending before the NLRB…which did nothing as a government agency to address the issue.
So my respect for the unions is at an all time low. If you have to be a member to have a decent job, that’s one thing, but you don’t have to go along with their underhanded tactics. Their lockstep demonstrations is distasteful. They only want the uninformed to go out to them, so I think it might be an eyeopener for some of them. They may actually get an education if they listen to what the Tea Party Folks are saying and jump ship. So I welcome them….and ask them to look into the light and leave the dark side. Get informed.
It goes to Obama’s sense of personal entitlement, his anger and arrogance and his Chicago thug politics attitude. Yes, he believes he should be crowned king and his minions sent out to further destroy the nation through corruption and violence. We haven’t seen anything yet.
It goes to Obama’s sense of personal entitlement, his anger and arrogance and his Chicago thug politics attitude.
Since when has the entire country been so incredibly “sucked in” for this guy & his henchmen? Unlike my pastor who is certain things will “work out all right in the end,” I am actually frightened by all this GRAB for POWER in Washington. And I wonder where it will leave us! Why is everyone so certain this Obama dude “means well?” I do not see things in this light and as a Baby Boomer, it genuinely frightens me.
Brontefan, we know that “All things work for good…”, but there’s nothing that says you can’t be pushing back. Doesn’t mean they’ll “work for good” in our terms and in our perspective, but you’ve got to remember His is a little bit clearer, better and longer term.
In the meantime, dissent of policies I deem as evil, in a way that reflects my Christian life, will continue against what is surely an evil shadow overtaking this wonderful, God-provided land.
Intelligent enough to be that Machiavellian to the mass of the United States? Without affirmative action he probably couldn’t have made it into much more than a local community college, let alone Hawvud, so I doubt seriously he (or all the king’s men) could keep him from falling to pieces in this one. This video alone shows he doesn’t think far enough ahead to be successful.
But it’s our job to show this side of him.
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And I’m just as sure that, if they thought they could get away with it, the jackasses would slip in an amendment that would “temporarily” suspend the Constitution and make Duh-1 “President-for-Life”.
The really sad thing, though, is how many Republicans would wring their hands and vote for it anyway, since they don’t read the bills they vote on and wouldn’t have a clue.
On the other hand, 95% of D.C. doesn’t have a clue and 95% of the rest of them are willing to sell the clue they have, for a price (and in cold cash!).
The Big Bad Unions continue to play union games in 2009 no less. If these thieving knuckle draggers think there are no spotters out there taking pictures, creating files and approaching this assertively and intelligently then ignorance is bliss I guess. More importantly, today’s antiquated Union’s need to know that the days of Hoffa, et al., are over. It’s just a matter of time before they are convinced this effort of intimidation can be played by those who really know how the game is played.
A quid pro quo? Imagine that! Hi’m shocked, that’s wot I ham, shocked!”
Sorry. Thinking about Gilbert and Sullivan and inadvertantly channeled the Boatswain from HMS Pinafore. But at least I haven’t gone all Dick Deadeye on everyone – uh oh…
“It’s human nature, I’m resigned.”
Why I keep skipping these demonstrations, Chapter XXII.
I have this knee-jerk reaction to being unarmed. And I get dangerous when attacked.
If I show up at a TownHall meeting, and the SEIU or ACORN decides to start whacking on me, or worse, my wife?
I don’t propose to be the one to start creating the body count, so I’ll just stay home for now, Thank You Very Much. Our side doesn’t need the kind of publicity that we’d get from me and my running buddies showing up at a demonstration where there are “agents-provocateurs”.
I’m writing letters, and saving myself for the serious heavy lifting that may yet eventuate.
I don’t want no trouble, but don’t bring trouble to see me, or things will get ugly. And I’m not the only one thinking that way.
The UAW got GM, now the AFL gets NY Federal Reserve –
AFL Political-adviser Head gets Fed
I think it was George Washington who said that, “Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.”
Even fewer today than then, I’ll wager.
We carry guns down here in Florida.
I went to a counterprotest at the Jacksonville IBEW local (I was the counterprotester) and wore a .38 the entire time.
(Of course I stayed off the property to avoid getting arrested for armed trespassing.)
I had no problem.
I haven’t heard of anyone getting intimidated or beaten up in my state. (other than Tampa).
Even union thugs mind their manners down here.
Since my husband has had to be a Teamster to keep his job for many years, we have seen the kind of “justice” the union trustees and leaders dispense among their own. They break work rules regularly where their buddies benefit and if you are not among them, tough cookies, you get the sh** jobs/shifts. They are about making deals with the employer that benefit a few and speak about the brotherhood….bull!
My husband’s seniority was denounced, twice….once wholesale in a bloating and unfair “dovetail” agreement with a dying company being taken over by a healthy one and once again when union hotshots thought he wasn’t worth defending before the NLRB…which did nothing as a government agency to address the issue.
So my respect for the unions is at an all time low. If you have to be a member to have a decent job, that’s one thing, but you don’t have to go along with their underhanded tactics. Their lockstep demonstrations is distasteful. They only want the uninformed to go out to them, so I think it might be an eyeopener for some of them. They may actually get an education if they listen to what the Tea Party Folks are saying and jump ship. So I welcome them….and ask them to look into the light and leave the dark side. Get informed.
It goes to Obama’s sense of personal entitlement, his anger and arrogance and his Chicago thug politics attitude. Yes, he believes he should be crowned king and his minions sent out to further destroy the nation through corruption and violence. We haven’t seen anything yet.
Since when has the entire country been so incredibly “sucked in” for this guy & his henchmen? Unlike my pastor who is certain things will “work out all right in the end,” I am actually frightened by all this GRAB for POWER in Washington. And I wonder where it will leave us! Why is everyone so certain this Obama dude “means well?” I do not see things in this light and as a Baby Boomer, it genuinely frightens me.
Brontefan, we know that “All things work for good…”, but there’s nothing that says you can’t be pushing back. Doesn’t mean they’ll “work for good” in our terms and in our perspective, but you’ve got to remember His is a little bit clearer, better and longer term.
In the meantime, dissent of policies I deem as evil, in a way that reflects my Christian life, will continue against what is surely an evil shadow overtaking this wonderful, God-provided land.
Nauseating video. Pathological liar.
Nauseating? Yes.
Pathological liar? Maybe.
Machiavellian? Without a doubt.
Intelligent enough to be that Machiavellian to the mass of the United States? Without affirmative action he probably couldn’t have made it into much more than a local community college, let alone Hawvud, so I doubt seriously he (or all the king’s men) could keep him from falling to pieces in this one. This video alone shows he doesn’t think far enough ahead to be successful.
But it’s our job to show this side of him.