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Audacity of Truth
Whiner-in-Chief:
"[W]hether the grumbling is about Republicans on Fox or bloggers in pajamas, there's a word for what the president and his aides are doing. That word is "whining." And nothing [...] does more damage to Obama's credibility or authority than the sense that a popular president is becoming the whiner-in-chief."
- John Nichols, Nation Magazine - 10/12/09
What he said
Jeff Goldstein has some strong words for the jerks who splashed Michelle Malkin’s home address, home photos, and maps of how to get to her house on their blogs in apparent retaliation for her posting the email addresses and phone numbers of SAW (Students Against War) – the group who were behind the recent nasty anti-military recruiting protest where military recruiters, as a result, were forced into leaving a job fair being held at UC Santa Cruz. Mind you, the email addresses and phone numbers of the SAW members in question were made public by SAW themselves in a press release, which Michelle noted in an earlier post here (see also here). Goldstein writes:
Whether or not you care for Michelle Malkin’s political positions, you should be honest enough to admit that this crusade to try to intimidate her and her family—a crusade being waged by mostly anonymous cowards who no person in the blogosphere, left OR right, should encourage or countenance—is both disgraceful and, in the long run, dangerous. Not only that, but the pretext upon which it is based—the reprinting of a press release (which last I checked was INTENDED to be disseminated, and was in fact, as of yesterday, still available in its entirety on a number of leftwing sites)—is so laughable as to be insulting to anyone with even a spark of electricity traveling across his or her grey matter.
So. I am now calling for the very public condemnation and ostracizing of those who would post satellite photos and personal addresses of a their political opponents on the web. I am also calling for the public condemnation and ostracizing of those hyperpartisan bloggers / media figures who condone or applaud such actions.
Count me in.
Check out Michelle’s response to what those on the unhinged left are trying to do. You go girl.
The unhinged hardcore lefties who engage sick stuff like this have a chillingly unhealthy obsession with trying to silence popular righty bloggers they don’t like, don’t they?
Basic human decency and a mutual respect for the right of the voices on the other side of the aisle to speak is just a little bit too much to ask from some people, I guess.
The original DU thread which contained the information is no longer up but Ankle Biting Pundits has posted a note from someone who alerted them to the thread earlier Wednesday:
All of Michelle Malkin’s personal info–name, address, phone–and an remarkable array of aerial photos of her house were deliberately published on Democratic Underground early this morning. Incredibly, they included detailed pics of her house, her street etc.–all helpfully circled in graduated photos that showed her entire subdivision right up to her front door. I have the original post if you would like to see it.
It’s no longer up on DU, but it was for about a half-hour this morning. If you need it, let me know. This was done in ‘retaliation’ for her publishing the names and addys of the military recruiter protestors at Santa Clara/Cruz? University several days ago (even though she put up several notices IN ADVANCE about how to handle the issue if you didn’t want your info published. Their info was also available at several other websites (and still is); they are singling out MM simply because they hate her. I cannot print the names on her blog that they continue to call her…
The Politburo Diktat has a link to another DU thread on this topic that will make your blood boil.
Others slamming the leftist jerks who posted Michelle’s private information: John Hawkins, Bryan Preston, Flopping Aces, California Conservative, Lorie Byrd at Polipundit, Jawa Report
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Nice try Wolfe, but sniffing that this is stupid and banal and there are more important things to worry about is also a tried and true tactic of the left to deflect criticism about whatever heinous or unpleasant thing they just did. Is this as important as what do do about Iran, no, but you sell it seriously short, as it is symptomatic of the cancer that’s eating at this country in the guise of “progressive” values. Your failure to either admit or recognize that still pegs you as a person of poor character.
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You’re trying to push me into having an argument with you about the merits this issue, and I won’t do it because I fundamentally disagree with you about the importance of this issue.
S-
It may be a tactic for some, but it’s true for me. This is a dumb issue, and a dumb thing to argue about when both sides show so much immaturity and bone-headedness. It’s not “sniffing”; It’s not that I’m above this issue. Rather, it’s that it’s beneath us all.
I don’t agree.
I find this a serious enough issue that it raises warning flags that instead of debate, we have those who would rather find your personal and private information and put it out for hte world to see, including thieves, murderers, rapists, and any other pervert that may be looking through where it is posted.
It does NOTHING at all for debate, when you dig for private information and post it. You invite violence instead of debate.
Unfortunately, I am seeing this more and more, that instead of debate, violence has taken stead. If someone doesn’t like what you say, they will beat you, threaten you or your family.
I read through and followed Karl’s Links at Leaning Straight Up, to DU to see how the other side discusses items like this. I was thouroughly disgusted.
The one person who tried to show sense, and was worried at how this replfects on his party, the image it puts forth, he tried to talk about that and was essentially told who the hell cares about your opinion, its not wanted and neither are you.
I have no problem if someone wants to be sensible and debate an issue, heck I am sure I could learn some from a decent Democrat. But there is no learning, no debate from some of these, what I call, new-age democrats. Take the party by force, anyone who doesn’t agree with your opinion or your message gets shouted down and stomped out.
Unfortunately, I am seeing that type more and more.
I would love to have an honest debate, back and forth, shown with links and proof of each sides beliefs and positions. I think it would make for good reading and we all could learn …..
Unfortunately I don’t see that happening, not when it is easier to attack a person than it is to debate them….
Malkin is married to Mark Noonan who writes for “Blogs for Bush” he’s a conservative catholic and they live in Las Vegas where he puts together “deals” with other people’s money…blahblahblahblah. If you don’t want people crawling up your poop shoot, don’t crawl up theirs. Malkin is constantly expressing her opinion and she deserves what you all people give the left, an outing and some invective. “There is no crying when you blog.” Peace
- Sure Steve. Lets just scuttle all the laws of our society and let them all fight it out. What an idiot. Those were the ezact same words you would have heard from southern sepratists if you’d been alive during the civil rights days. “Well who cares, they’re black, so they deserve it”. You truly are an anarchist and a dyed in the wool bigot.
- And Wolfe. Its kind of late in the day for the “boys will be boys” meme. Or the “this is so silly” evasions. Your side once again, jumped the shark impulsively, letting their emotions run their heads. We’ll see if the Feds think its all silly.
- I’ve seen some of the bomb-mails shes gotten, and its just unbelievably rank, mean, and vicious. To excuse that sort of thing is to be ignored from that point on. That sort of thing is very definately not just a “part of the game”. Not in my America.
- Bang
Both sides again huh? Typical liberal “false accusation”.
Your are not just “staying above the fray” now.
Now you are perpetuating lies and false allegations by acting like one side did something wrong when they didn’t.
We tried to help you. You should’ve just stayed COMPLETELY quiet. But you didn’t. You’ve helped untold new political people see who they should be lining up with. Conservatives….. Thanks.
And for that one Steve…. I don’t think you belong here.
You get to express an opinion but she doesn’t or she deserves what she gets? You are mean spirited and might I say evil.
Where you getting your information?
Because unless you have proof, your lying.
Here is mine:
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Your turn steve.
Show me where Michelle Malkin is married to Mark Noonan.
SO far the only thing verifiable that you said is Mark Noonan writes for “Blogs for Bush” and he lives in Vegas. But it is Mark that Lives in Vegas, while from what I found of others posting malkin’s personal information, she lives in Germantown, Maryland.
I will not reprint others so viscously put out there, suffice it to say she lives in Germantown, MD.
So, I would like to know where you got your false information steve. Show us proof.
Otherwise you are lying again.
I think he’s batting 1,000. 100% lies all the time. Nobody should be allowed that.
- Well actually Bak, its better to let the solicious idiotarians have their say. You want to know who the troublemakers, and turncoats are, and thats the best way. an old saying. Give them enough rope, and Liberals are singularly bad at lying, which is why so many of the twisted fool ideas they come up with get laughed at a lot.
- One thing the Left never seems to get, (I know – thats redundent), is that when they try running their idiotic scams on Conservatives, it only serves to make us focus and rise up and respond. Like Bush, they just keep under-estimating us. Maybe its a lot of wishful thinking.
- Bang
I will tap dance on the windpipe of anyone that tries to harm Michelle Malkin or her family.
All she has to do is say the word and 10,000 folks like me will come runnin to her neighborhood.
We will protect her the same way the Bikers protect the military families.
GO ‘HEAD, MAKE MY DAY.
Richard Davis
Philadelphia, PA
USN Ret
“Posting their press release that they posted themselves?”
That they then asked removed from malkin’s site. It depends on whats done with the info, not just that its ‘out there’ and ‘in public.’
So andrew, are they more concerned about the info they posted being reposted on her site because she has a far better following than the place they chose, or is it just another day of, let’s play the asshat card again and see how much grief and destruction we can cause.
Jerks like these, deserve no defense and you do yourself injustice by attempting to justify their inabilities to create anything worthwhile. I have read a lot of your posts and you are smarter than that. What good can come of it?
Forest, andrew can’t help himself. He’s in knee-jerk protect the liberals mode. He can’t see his own lack of ethics because he, like most liberals, don’t have any ethics. Wolfe is the same. He can’t admit to himself that the left is wrong and Malkin did nothing wrong.
steve(FN) is just showing how deluded, delusional, and ill informed he is. steve(FN) is as sad case.
Well, PCD, that’s what years of government education and moral relativism will do for you.
Moral relativism means never having to say you’re sorry…
sev, or admit that you are wrong.
Andrew, I agree, IF they have written to Malkin, email or however they needed to reach her, to ask for the information to be removed from her site and she does not do it, THEN I will have a problem with hypocrisy of Malkin putting up the disclaimer about removing information if requested.
But that is IF they actually have written to Malkin to do so.
As of yet, last update I have seen from Malkin was that they have not.
Yes, I know, it then becomes a match of he said, she said, of whom to believe.
I have followed a few links to what people said they informaed malkin, but it doesn;t say or show anything of any email or word to malkin, just that they have been receiving hate mail. Which is uncalled for.
But saying and showing you are receiving hate mail is not a request to another site owner to remove your information from their site.
If you have proof, I would gladly look at it.
Sev and PCD: It’s almost like they either check someones watch or look at a calendar, to determine which way the next shift in the perpetual spin cycle is to be.
Forest, they post diaries to each other on DU. That is how they do it.
“Forest, andrew can’t help himself. He’s in knee-jerk protect the liberals mode.”
I know know what knee is jerking, but putting up addresses in a manner that leads to harassment is wrong no matter who does it.
- Hey guys. Its tough when you’re powerless, and your basic approach to everything is “Blame America first”. A few of my Liberal friends are really torn because they vehemently disagree with a lot of the rabid craziness of the hard left. But its the really demented types that are willing to go way over the line that usually scream the loudest, and the LMSM just loves it.
- They’re definately in a no-win situation. If they just accept things it could be years before they regain political clout. Screaming and trampling on everything in sight, “Anygate” scams, and smear campaigns may get them headlines and confuse the public about Bush and the administration, but it doesn’t equal any more votes at the ballot box. Nobodies going to vote for a bunch of ethicless maniacs. But with no party plan I guess they think its the only option left.
- Just so damn glad I don’t have to defend that camp of morons.
- Bang
andrew, you just demonstrated your basic blindness if not stupidity about this. That was a press release those dopes at SAW put out. It is a PUBLIC document. It was posted openly. Only idiots can’t understand that when you openly disseminate a document for public consumption that everything on there is then made known to the public. Now, are going to prove you are an idiot by disputing this and continuing on with your tantrum about Malkin?
Still waiting on your proof steve….
From your assertions made on 4/20/2006 – 7:47 pm.
I gave you PROOF in my posting of 4/20/2006 – 8:41 pm, of Malkin’s husband, who he is, and where they live, and even gave you where Noonan Lives as an added bonus.
Now, I would like to see your proof on where you got you ideas and thoughts that Malkin and Noonan (Blogs for Bush) were married.
You come in here and make wild and outlandish statements, you need to back up your statements. Otherwise you add nothing to the discussions.