Earlier today in my post on Iran’s Islamofascist “leader” and his attempts at trying to arrange a visit to Ground Zero, I briefly noted a couple of links which gave examples of a couple far lefties who were in sharp disagreement with conservatives on the issue of Ahmadinejad setting foot on Ground Zero.
Since the time I’ve written that post, other left wing bloggers have weighed in at their blogs, and the left-wing chorus of “let him visit Ground Zero” has, astoundingly, escalated (documented here). I say “astoundingly” because you’d think that this would be one issue on which we could all agree because, among other things:
1. He’s threatened us,
2. He’s threatened our strong and solid ally Israel,
3. Helping arm terrorists to kill our troops in Iraq,
4. His “operatives” are in Iraq doing the same,
5. He and Hamas are tag team terror partners,
6. He’s reconstituted Iran’s nuclear program and not for peaceful purposes,
7. In a letter last May addressed to the President, Ahmadinejad suggested that 9-11 was an inside job.
Wasn’t it the left who whined before and after the war in Iraq started that we should be focusing on “real threats” not “imagined ones” (as they claimed Iraq was)? I’d say the above constitutes more than enough evidence to prove what Iran’s intentions are towards the US and other free nations, and those intentions sure as hell don’t include ‘negotiations for peace.’
Yet here we go again, with the left actually trying to rationalize a visit to Ground Zero by this Islamofascist thug by claiming “but he hasn’t done anything to us” and complaining about the “message” this sends other “world leaders” as if sending a message that state sponsors of terrorism will not be allowed to insult the memories of 9-11 victims by walking on the grounds in which thousands of innocents were murdered 6 years ago - by terrorists just like him - is somehow ‘wrong.’ What the bleep? I knew the left’s claims that we should only go after “real threats” were completely bogus when they were (and still are, for that matter) making them, but I think their reactions to the attempt by Ahmeanie leave no doubt whatsoever that they were and are full of it on the “real threats” claim.
Of course, Bush hatred is playing a part in this, because the far left would love nothing more than to see photos of Ahmeanie laying a wreath at Ground Zero splashed all over newspapers around the world, because it would embarass the President and also embolden terrorists whom the far left have claimed have ‘legitimate grievances’ with the US under the ‘Bush regime’ but there’s something bigger at play here than just Bush hatred: There’s also the self-hatred that the left have been wallowing in since the Vietnam days, where everything their country does in defense of itself is ‘wrong’ and ‘imperialistic,’ and where all we supposedly have to do to prevent attacks against us is to go the ‘peace, love, and understanding’ route with our enemies.
The left, aided and joined by an equally liberal anti-war mainstream media (scroll), have never moved beyond those beliefs, and even picked as their choice for president in 2004 a man with a history of self-hatred for his country (and the military in which he served, too) that dates all the way back to Vietnam. The current frontrunner in the race for the Dem nomination is a woman who herself was anti-war (along with her husband, our former president, who was also anti-war and anti-military) during Vietnam and really hasn’t changed much (unless she’s trying to present an image of “strength,” of course). In fact, Mr. Anti-War himself George McGovern, a “hero” of sorts to the far left back during Vietnam, has endorsed her.
Drudge is quoting an CBS interview done today with Ahmeanie in Iran in which he is asked about his controversial wish to visit Ground Zero. Here’s what he said:
PELLEY: Sir, what were you thinking? The World Trade Center site is the most sensitive place in the American heart, and you must have known that visiting there would be insulting to many, many Americans.
AHMADINEJAD: Why should it be insulting?
PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans.
AHMADINEJAD: Well, I’m amazed. How can you speak for the whole of the American nation?
PELLEY: Well, the American nation–
AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.
Oddly enough, doesn’t that sound exactly what the left is saying? Sound familiar?
Forgive my momentary lapse in reason on being “astounded” - if only for a few seconds - that the left wouldn’t agree with the right that a visit from Ahmadinejad to Ground Zero should never, ever, ever happen for the reasons I mentioned above, and more. I won’t make that mistake again.
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Isn’t it a sad day when France recognizes threats to our nation, but certain Americans don’t:
France calls for tougher sanctions on Iran
Comment by NC Cop @ 9/20/2007 - 8:49 pm
None of this is a surprise to me ST. The far left and the Islamofascists have converged. They are allies against the west.
Listen to what Osama said. He may as well be one of the Kos Kids.
Comment by dunkenstein @ 9/20/2007 - 9:09 pm
ST asks, Wasn’t it the left who whined before and after the war in Iraq started that we should be focusing on “real threats” not “imagined ones” (as they claimed Iraq was)?
Ah, but there’s the catch. To the left, there are no real threats from America-hating regimes. Think about it…when’s the last time the left unequivocably opposed one of America’s enemies? They’re not doing it now. They didn’t do it during the Cold War. You might have to go back to WW2 to find it, and the ‘left’ then isn’t nearly what the left is today. Their idea of a serious threat isn’t islamofascism, it’s that one-half degree temperature rise every century.
In fact, if you do try to act against the real threats, such as implementing the Patriot Act, or tracking AQ’s financial dealings, the left will slap on the tinfoil hats, scream about how their civil liberties are being trashed, and work to obstruct you in every way possible.
And they’ll do that right up to the moment one of those real threats strikes with a new and horrific terror attack. Then their tune will change…they begin pointing fingers and demand to know why you didn’t “connect the dots”, as if they hadn’t tried to hide the dots and break the pencil all along.
Comment by Great White Rat @ 9/20/2007 - 9:28 pm
I will say this again, I think “Mr. I’m in a dinnerjacket” ought to be grabbed by a bunch of “students” and held 444 days as a dose of his own medicine. After 444 days, “Mr. I’m in a dinnerjacket” ought to be released to Israel. Let the world see who the thug is and who are real people.
Comment by PCD @ 9/21/2007 - 10:01 am
Hey Mr. Aqua velvajad,
Be sure and take in the sights in the Bronx, I’m sure they have something for you there.
Comment by NC Cop @ 9/21/2007 - 11:02 am
Stick his butt in some ass-less chaps and drop him off at a gay bar….
[chuckles]
Brings back memories of Police Academy (movie)…
Comment by sanity @ 9/21/2007 - 11:16 am
ST,
Please add to your list that due to his participation in the Hostage Crisis he is recognized as a terrorist by international law.
Comment by TedintheShed @ 9/21/2007 - 11:17 am
I think his statement about shock over the American people’s reaction to his desire to honor the terrorists who murdered the people in the WTC is childish and ironic. Here is a group of people who rioted and killed people over a frickin’ cartoon of Mohamad. Hellloooooo?? /knock /knock /knock Is there a brain in your empty head at all?? What a complete dumbass. UN outta US!!! I hope you hear more and more of that echo’d from We the People. - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 9/21/2007 - 1:25 pm
Man, it’s ugly in here. So much hate for the left.
Equating the left with islamofascism, while completely ignoring the fact that these guys are on the RIGHT of conservatives in this country, is pretty ignorant.
Comment by ME @ 9/21/2007 - 1:50 pm
Something from the article excerpt caught my eye:
This is a common tactic among extremists of all stripes - they don’t debate what you actually said; they debate what they think you said. It’s possible to unravel their argument simply by paying close attention.
Comment by TheBrainGuy @ 9/21/2007 - 2:19 pm
Puhleeze.
Comment by Ryan @ 9/21/2007 - 2:48 pm
Ahhhhh the wonders of the supposed intelligent. ME these guys are to the left of the left. Socialism, and Communism, and Facism are all children of leftward thinking. Representive Republics are the children of those of of on the Right. Go ask Our Founding Fathers.
Also, your little comment about hate?? As if your high minded superior attitude isn’t based on your hate of yourself, for knowing the Right has all the good ideas, and any good idea you all have come up with is but a copy our ideas. - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 9/21/2007 - 3:00 pm
Well, if that’s what you perceive, I suggest you sit back and enjoy it, you and your fellow leftists have worked hard to earn it. The disgust and distaste for the left hasn’t occurred in a vacuum, it’s a direct response to your heinous actions, words, and philosophies that have bubbled up out of the fever swamp that is the liberal collective consciousness over the past 40 years. Each succeeding generation of leftists has felt it necessary to go to even greater lengths to act in ways contrary to both common decency and logic and common sense, have felt it necessary to denigrate all that is right and honorable and sacrifice all that civilization has wrought that is good on the altar of your own selfishness and narcissism.
So, as I said, enjoy it, you worked for it, you earned it.
Comment by Severian @ 9/21/2007 - 3:09 pm
“Socialism, and Communism, and Facism are all children of leftward thinking.”
That’s not accurate.
Socialism and Communism are economic models. The farthest right is pure capitalism, the farthest left being communism. Socialism is just a degree between these two points- the closer to communism a country is, the more socialistic it is. This can best be measured by the amount the people are taxed. Ameica, as an example, woioth our 40% tax rate is pretty socialist IMHO. There has been no purely Communist or Capitalist economies.
Fascism is not an economic model, it is a governement style. You can have fascist communist (the USSR) or fascist capitalist (China is emerging into this). The degrees are Fascism to democracy. Either of those are not specifically left or right dominate ideas, although aspiring communistic states tend to be fasicst because the can not obtain their end goal due to the nature of mankind.
Comment by TedintheShed @ 9/21/2007 - 4:00 pm
No hate from us, we shake our head in wonder at the stupidity of the left most times.
Common sense does not seem to be the strong point of hte left.
Think of it as a left brain / right brain thing. The left is more the feelings part, emotional, ect. While the right is more analytical, more common sense approach to things. Now without the two together both can be thrown into chaos, left going off strictly on emotion and the right going off with no feeling of emotion.
It isn’t that we hate the left, we just hate the way the left acts at times, over emotional…well, in a sense…drama queeens.
At times the left reminds me of this Obsessed person, crying to leave someone alone. Emotional.
Now, we do hate how the left acts at times, as I said, the moveon.org ad attacking a US General, conservative speakers that get attacked by the left, shouted down, the lefty news people who threaten to spit on those they don’t like….ect
How much do you hear of the right doing this? Especially prominent well-known conservatives….when is the last time you heard a news report about a conservative doing things like that?
Like Sev said, the left has earned contempt by how it acts…so sit back and enjoy, because we will not come out with flowers and candy for those that hit us in the fae with pies when we try and speak, that throw salad dressing on us, that shout us down, that physically attack and shoot those that don’t agree with them, that run rediculous ads smearing the troops…ect.
Please don’t come in here with a holier than thou attitude. You want to have a discussion, fine, sit down and talk with common sense and we will listen and talk with you…but don’t come in here and act like the lefts shit don’t stink…that ain’t gonna fly buddy.
Comment by sanity @ 9/21/2007 - 4:13 pm
I noticed, ME, that you really couldn’t argue any of the facts presented, just call people ignorant. That speaks volumes.
So, no doubt, you visit liberal/left sites and scold them about their ignorance when comparing Bush to Hitler, right?
Comment by NC Cop @ 9/21/2007 - 4:17 pm
So Ted, as presently practiced on the face of the Earth, my statement is an accurate one?? - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 9/21/2007 - 4:33 pm
Well, since the only words even close to hate in this thread, until and even after your post, were directed at the terrorist thug from Iran, and since you’re certainly a creature of the left, what you’ve done, essentially, is admit that you and the islamofascists are on the same side.
Although it’s not like we didn’t know it all along, it’s nice that you’re being honest about it.
Comment by Great White Rat @ 9/21/2007 - 4:51 pm
Lorica,
No it is not. Fascism is not a child of any particular left/right thinking. Both left and right can be fascist.
Examples: USSR style fascism was indeed a the result of left thinking, while Nazi style was that of the right.
Comment by TedintheShed @ 9/21/2007 - 6:58 pm
How was Nazism a style of right thinking?? Seemed to be caused by more socialist policies than capitalist. - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 9/22/2007 - 12:56 pm