Spitzer: Let’s tolerate gay-hating Islamists, but not traditional marriage backers at @ChickfilA

Posted by: ST on July 25, 2012 at 5:56 pm

Here’s disgraced former Governor of NY Eliot Spitzer on the idiotic calls by the “tolerant” left to boycott the Chick-fil-A fast food chain over their Biblically-based support for traditional marriage (bolded emphasis added by me):

Chick-fil-A makes a great chicken sandwich, and I used to like getting one—with a cup of their amazing lemonade—whenever I was in the South. In fact, before I knew more about Chick-fil-A, I used to joke about helping to open one in New York.

Then I found out the company, according to the LGBT group Equality Matters, has donated millions of dollars to groups that oppose gay rights, and Chick-fil-A’s president, Dan Cathy, told a Baptist newspaper that he supported the “biblical” definition of family. That’s why former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas has asked that folks who share the company’s principles stop by a Chick-fil-A on Aug. 1 to show support for the company’s conservative values.

And that’s fair enough.

If you really don’t think gays and lesbians should have the same rights as everyone else, and you oppose same-sex marriage, stop by Chick-fil-A. If you truly believe gays and lesbians should be second-class citizens, and if you sincerely don’t want them to marry the people they love, stop by Chick-fil-A.

But the same goes for those of us who support same-sex marriage and have what we consider to be a broader view of civil rights. We should boycott Chick-fil-A. These are our consumer dollars—and they’re part of our voice. We should use them for products we like—to support companies we like and to back causes we like.

Spitzer is right on the issue of the consumer having the right to spend their hard-earned money where they so choose (the money they have left after the government confiscates an obscene amount from their checks, anyway), but the stench of religious intolerance towards Christians who believe differently than him and other leftists on the issue of alternative forms of marriage is pretty strong, isn’t it?  What Spitzer is saying here is that if, as a Christian, you’ve correctly interpreted the Bible to understand that God promotes  man/woman couples and disapproves of homosexuality, then you deserve to lose business.  He’s also stated categorically that any Christian who believes this also thinks gays are “second class citizens” who “don’t deserve the same rights” as straights.

While it’s true that some misguided Christians do indeed, unfortunately, “hate gays” rather than taking the correct attitude that you are to “love the sinner and hate the sin” (as we are supposed to do with ALL sinners, since we are all sinners ourselves), there are many more who don’t “hate gays” at all but who DO believe that the definition of marriage should be that it consists of one man and won woman only. Some Christians base their beliefs solely on Biblical scripture (while God is not tolerant of any sin at all, the Bible makes it clear that He is the judge when it comes to sin, not anyone here on Earth).  Others use secular arguments to justify their position.  And others base it on a mixture of both.    But the important thing to note here is that it is a non-violent religious belief grounded in scripture and for the Cathy family of Chick-fil-A to change their stance on the issue in order to become sufficiently “tolerant” to Spitzer and the liberal Gay Gestapo (and to avoid further political blackmail, which I’ll get into in a minute) would mean violating their religious principles.

Ironically enough, it was Spitzer himself who said two years ago that religious intolerance had no place in a modern American society …. but in this instance he was talking about the controversial “Ground Zero mosque” in a broad-based discussion on so-called “Islamophobia” in general.  Matthew Balan at Newsbusters transcribed Spitzer’s remarks at the time (bolded emphasis added by me):

[ANDERSON] COOPER: There’s- you know, we’ve seen these incidents now moving away from just this mosque, but to opposing- some oppose the building of any new mosque in the United States, or some expose just the expansion in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. And those who support it say, ‘Look, this is Islamophobia.’ Do you buy that?

SPITZER: I think there’s a big element of Islamophobia, but I think this is also part of our history, and we need to be careful that we appeal to our better angels, as Lincoln said.

COOPER: This is just the newest group?

SPITZER: This is (unintelligible)-

COOPER: From Catholics to Jews to the-

SPITZER: Precisely, the newest incarnation- and, in fact, before I came on the show, I dug out George Washington’s letter to a synagogue in Newport, Rhode Island in 1790, where he addressed this and he said the wonderful thing about this nation, a new nation at that point, three years old- 220 years ago, he wrote this- is that we are tolerant, and we need our political leadership to speak to tolerance. We need to go back to those values, so that everybody can do what the imam wants to do and what David Gergen spoke to, which is to get people together and say, ‘wait a minute, let us not’-

COOPER: But that’s not what our political life is about now.

[KATHLEEN] PARKER: But we keep hearing this, ‘they’re going to do this, if you let them get in.’

COOPER: Pat Robertson saying that (unintelligble)-

PARKER: You let them do this, then they’re going to demand, demand. Who is the ‘they’? I mean, these are Americans, too, and it makes me wonder how many people out there watching tonight actually know someone who is a Muslim? You know, there seems to be- I just feel like this has become a misunderstanding on a broad scale. And while- absolutely, when you talk to people whose families died in this and- you know, on 9/11, you can’t not take that seriously. I mean, that emotion is real, and it’s still raw. But I think we’ve got to stop thinking of Muslims as being ‘them.’

OTOH, when it comes to Christian conservatives, that “tolerance” rule Spitzer promoted just a couple of years ago doesn’t apply.   This is especially interesting, considering the high degree of INTOLERANCE promoted by the Koran itself – as noted by my co-blogger at the time the Ground Zero mosque debate was raging:

[...] Muslims have the right to practice their faith in over 30 mosques in New York City, alone, and can build more. And it is not about private property rights (which is funny coming from you, given your treatment of property rights in the GM and Chrysler bailouts), for no serious critic says property owners do not have the right to do what they wish with their property within zoning laws.

It is, however, about the location chosen and the inappropriateness of exercising those rights at that place. Ground Zero is where a Muslim jihadist organization launched a razzia (“raid”) against the kuffar(“infidels”) for the sake of Allah (jihad fi sabil Allah) and in accordance with the Qur’an, chapter nine, verse five:

Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

And, at the same link, verse 111:

Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

That act of war, done in the name of Islam and in accordance with Islamic law, killed 3,000 of our people and foreign guests. And you think it’s a good thing to build a mosque there? Muslim spokesmen and their liberal and libertarian apologists demand we be tolerant and sensitive. Tell me, sir, why shouldn’t they (and you) be tolerant and sensitive toward the nearly 70% of Americans who opposebuilding that mosque on that spot?

Bingo.

And, oh – here’s another irony alert: How interesting is it that the “pro-gay rights” Spitzer promoted “religious tolerance” of the Ground Zero mosque and Islam when Islam is decidedly anti-gay to the point that it mandates the public judgment, stoning, and murder of gays by fellow Islamists?  In other words, whereas the Bible teaches that the ultimate judgement for all sin, including the sin of homosexuality, will come when you die and have to answer to God, Islam directs its followers to be the judge, jury, and executioners of those who do not strictly adhere to Mohammed’s teachings.   Gays (and women and “infidels”) are not merely “second class citizens”  in the Islamic community, they are the lowest of the low who “deserve”  the violent persecution and punishment meted out to them by “true” Islamists.   This, friends, is factual in nature and is what Eliot Spitzer, in effect, told us to “tolerate” in the name of “religious freedom.”

But the privately-owned Chick-Fil-A’s announced and financial (and very much non-violent) support of traditional marriage as based on Biblical scripture?  Forget “religious tolerance.” Not only should you not “tolerate” Chick-fil-A’s stance on marriage, but you should avoid their stores at all costs – even if it means putting them out of business.  According to the Spitzers of America, we should “tolerate” a religion that promotes savagery towards women, gays, and non-believers, but NOT tolerate in any way shape or form a PRIVATE business due to their Biblically-based non-violent beliefs on traditional marriage.

Then again, hypocrisy has become Spitzer’s stock-in-trade these last few years, so should we really be surprised at this latest instance?

Sadly, some liberal politicians are taking their hypocritical “religious tolerance” stances even further, and chillingly so – actively encouraging the blocking of Chick-fil-A’s from opening in their cities and states.   Michelle Malkin has much more.  Where’s Mr. “Religious Tolerance”  himself President Obama when you need him?   Don’t expect him to make any big statements on this anytime soon – if ever.  Right now, he’s too busy kissing the a**ses of liberal gays during an election  year. Not only that, but promoting private business aka capitalism has never been in his political playbook (hello?). Thirdly, “religious tolerance” in his view is only for those expressing religious viewpoints that are politically correct – like the ones he espouses.

Never, ever, ever, ever EVER let the left convince you they are in any way, shape, form or fashion “honest purveyors” of tolerance, religious or otherwise.   In reality, liberals are some of the most bigoted people you will ever meet in your life. They’ll tell you that they simply do not “tolerate” hate, but as this post has clearly demonstrated, that  is another one of their infamous -and easily debunked – lies.

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22 Responses to “Spitzer: Let’s tolerate gay-hating Islamists, but not traditional marriage backers at @ChickfilA”

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  1. Drew the Infidel says:

    A wonderful spot for a cozy evening meal accomodating Barney Frank and his new “bride”, Ben Dover.

  2. db says:

    I proudly patronize Chick-fil-A and have for about 30 years.

    Whenever possible I patronize Lowe’s (rather than “Homo Depot”).

    And after a promotional email I recently received from Office Depot, from whom I have purchased a LOT of ink, I will be giving more of my business to their competitors, also.

  3. Chris in NC says:

    Looks like another trip to Chick Fil A for me. Those shakes are pure evil as is that spicy sandwich. And I am someone who voted against the marriage amendment.

  4. Sefton says:

    Chick-fil-A’s president, Dan Cathy, told a Baptist newspaper that he supported the “biblical” definition of family. – Spitzer

    Oh the horror!

    Seriously, I hope the left keeps this up. Obama’s exposed himself with the “you didn’t build that” major gaffe on private enterprise and now this attack on mainstream American values. Keep it up guys. It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

  5. EBL says:

    The hypocrisy burns more than horseradish sauce.

    Okay, horseradish sauce does not really burn, but you get where I am going.

  6. EBL says:

    Remember when Obama shared Dan Cathy’s views? Back in 2008 when he was trying to get elected. Then Obama changed this year so as not to lose that gay contribution money.

  7. Great White Rat says:

    Remember when Obama shared Dan Cathy’s views?

    Yup. And for some reason, those same politicians now screaming about Chick-Fil-A all supported him. You didn’t see Client #9 on the air denouncing him. You didn’t see Tom Mannino demanding he stay out of the city. You didn’t see Rahm Emanuel refusing to work for him. Maybe it’s because they knew he was lying back then (as on most everything else).

    As for boycotts, I can only tell you that around here, they’re not having too much success. I stopped by the local Chick-Fil-A on Tuesday for a late lunch about 1:30pm. Every table in the place was full and there were lines three or four deep in front of each register.

  8. TexasMom2012 says:

    Yep, the lines at our local chick fil a stores are longer than usual by double! LOL, I think they have cashed in! And they didn’t have to subornate their beliefs to do so! Lolololololololol!

    Really, who are the intolerant ones? It is the left by far…. If you support the DOMA they say you are the intolerant… Rediculous!

  9. Iva Biggin says:

    The unfortunate thing for me is that I would have to make a 160 mile round trip to eat at one of their restaurants . I can’t be with them in person but I’m with them in spirit. Hope the homies don’t hate me for that (actually I don’t care if they do).

  10. PE says:

    I suspect old Eliot thinks there are some rewards in being a Molotov cocktail, especially given that he’s closed out a lot of other options.

  11. Carlos says:

    At least you have one relatively nearby, Iva. I’d have to travel out of state just to start looking for one!

    But for those of you who are in similar circumstances, take a minute, find a PAC that is supported by Cathy, and send them the equivalent of what you’d spend on the meal anyway, and attach a note saying the donation is due to and in the name of Mr. Cathy.

  12. Drew says:

    It gets worse. Our illustrious mayor is now blathering on about “Chicago values.”

    What next? Kick out the Irish Catholics? Kick out the Catholic churches?

    And Rahm has now embraced the Nation of Islam.

    In best Don Imus voice: You can’t make this stuff up!

  13. Bill says:

    Hmmm…I wonder when these cities will begin banning Christian Churches

  14. Kate says:

    I have to say, after Spinzter’s hijinx with call girls, I would say his opinion has zero value with me!

    Mr. Cathy owns a business and should be able to run it the way he chooses….the charges by the gay organizations are unfounded. It’s just their way of being relevant and staying in the news….

    Oh by the way, shouldn’t we categorize crime by sexual preference i.e. Penn State Sandusky is a GAY child predator!

    In NYC last week we had a witness report of a person who tried to snatch a child off a playground. The perp was grabbed by a playground helper who decked him, knocking him to the ground at which time a group of adult bystanders began to kick the tar out of him and left him unconscious on the sidewalk. Our kids were ther helping out with a free basketball camp and witnessed the entire thing….unnerving for all. But, street justice in NYC I suppose. Didn’t make the news, either.

  15. Great White Rat says:

    Whoa….get this: the NYT-owned Boston Globe has a well-reasoned editorial opposing the mayor’s Chick-Fil-A stance.

    From the editorial:

    A business owner’s political or religious beliefs should not be a test for the worthiness of his or her application for a business license.

    Can’t remember the last time I agreed with anything that came out of the NYT empire. This isn’t April Fool’s Day….does someone over there actually have functioning neurons??

  16. ST says:

    Awesome, GWR!

  17. Great White Rat says:

    @Drew:

    Our illustrious mayor is now blathering on about “Chicago values.”…And Rahm has now embraced the Nation of Islam.

    So let me see if I follow this: no Chick-Fil-A for Chicago because the founder’s family doesn’t have “Chicago values”, which among other things probably means he doesn’t take bribes and only votes once per election.

    But the Nation of Islam can open a restaurant in Chicago and His Honor is fine with that.

    Let’s not forget that the Nation of Islam’s values – which are presumably the same as Rahm’s “Chicago values” – include anti-semitism, racism, and….um….what was that other thing…oh yeah, I remember: opposing gay marriage.

    So supporting traditional marriage in Chicago is OK as long as you’re also anti-semitic and racist. Otherwise it’s the most evil thing known to man.

    All of which makes perfect sense if you’re a liberal, I guess.

  18. Severian says:

    Whenever some idiot does something like this to CFA,I make it a point to eat there, as I did yesterday. The place was mobbed, just packed, so this kerfluffle doesn’t seem to be hurting their business where I live anyway.

    The sammich was delicious, as usual, and again, as usual, the lemonade rocked.

    Best fast food out there. The worst service I’ve gotten at a CFA is better than the best service at any other fast food joint. Management must be doing something right, the workers are actually pleasant and helpful, rather than lazy and surly.

    Only downside is I sometimes get a hankering for a chicken biscuit on a Sunday, but I think it’s good that he follows his faith and shuts on Sundays. As the Cathy’s say, even if you aren’t religious, everyone needs one regular day off they can spend with their families.

  19. Great White Rat says:

    @Severian:

    Best fast food out there. The worst service I’ve gotten at a CFA is better than the best service at any other fast food joint. Management must be doing something right, the workers are actually pleasant and helpful, rather than lazy and surly.

    I couldn’t agree more. As I said above, out here in NJ, the boycott is going nowhere, and it’s the main reason I made it a point to stop by there this week.

    Good point about the service, too. I’ve noticed the same thing. The employees are organized and efficient and always pleasant. Either CFA has an excellent training program, or they treat their employees well, or both. The only fast food place around here with the same level of service is the local Arby’s.

    In contrast, about 5 years ago I made the mistake of stopping by the local Burger King one day. The jackass behind the counter got annoyed with me because I didn’t order in Spanish. Needless to say, I’ll never darken the door of a BK again.

  20. Carlos says:

    But GWR, I thought that Spanish was the language of choice at BK (and most other fast food joints, Mickey D’s and Wendy’s included). It’s just one more sign the Hispanics are determined to retake this country after losing everything 160 years ago.

    Talk about holding a grudge! Even Johnny Reb didn’t hold that grudge that long.

  21. Kate says:

    CFA’s has one of the best customer service training programs, check out this training video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v0RhvZ3lvY&noredirect=1

  22. Believer says:

    **==
    Way to go and I support you 100% and I will eat at your restaurant every time I get a chance. I will have to drive about 30 miles to do so but you can bet I surely will. I say stand your grounds as to what you believe in, since there are so many businesses that want to shy away from this problem in America. Hopefully this will get you more business than ever and you will prosper more and more for standing up for what is right.
    I am so so proud of you.