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Audacity of Truth
Big Government- Hot Air
- Michelle Malkin
- Wheeling & dealing: Snowe pow-wows with Obama; Landrieu, Schumer, Daschle behind the scenes
- Saturday in the Senate: Cash for Cloture; Reid gets 60; Update: 8:15pm Eastern cloture vote – 60-39; Voinovich absent; Dems invoke Teddy Kennedy; Reid: “Ted would be happy.”
- Another day, another Berkeley tantrum
- Jake Tapper
- Lynn Sweet
Gray Lady Down – a slam against the NYT
This is the best opinion piece I’ve seen yet on they hypocritical nature of the MSM when it comes to real leaks to the press that can damage our national security:
Trust: The so-called mainstream media in general and The New York Times in particular are waging a relentless campaign undermining the war on terror. The Fourth Estate is beginning to look like a Fifth Column.
It’s hard to imagine a major American newspaper in 1942 announcing before the Battle of Midway that we had broken the Imperial Japanese code or before D-Day that the Allies had a machine that let us read the Nazis’ highest-level transmissions.
Yet in the war on terror, that’s exactly the kind of information that papers like the Times and The Washington Post, in the name of the “people’s right to know,” have provided our jihadist enemy — from stories on secret CIA prisons where our mortal enemies are held to wiretaps on al-Qaida operatives and their U.S. contacts.
Where was the defense of the “people’s right to know” when the issue was who “revealed” the name of CIA desk jockey Valerie Plame and her Bush-bashing, mint tea-drinking husband, Joe Wilson? Then the issue was who was placing our covert agents in jeopardy and who should be indicted and sent to federal prison.
But when it comes to the Post disclosing classified information on CIA prisons, which we hope exist, or the Times telling the world that the CIA uses its own airline service, disguised as a private charter company, to move prisoners around, hey, that’s Pulitzer Prize material.
Hat tip: AJ Strata
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Absolutely correct. I pray that more proper thinking people will realize this and start to support the President against our enemy. Hopefully leaving the foolishness and lack of inteligence to those on the left. It is the same blah, blah, blah from the left consistantly wanting to allow our enemy the freedom to kill us, while hamstringing the very tools we need to prosecute this war. And just so I don’t have to explain myself later to Steve or whoever wants to call me a facist. I care more than you realize about our personal rights and freedoms. It is extremely important to me. I don’t fly anymore due to the TSA and the lunacy going on there. I would rather drive. This whole thing is quite the slippery slope, but the sooner we realize we are in a war, the sooner we can get this thing done and over with. – Lorica
All of this is a matter of trust. bush and Co. have proven themselves to be untrustworthy so now we the people require verification. Our position only makes America stronger not less strong. If what you are doing can not be shown to the general public and you are in a position of power then you probably shouldn’t be doing it. Peace
steve, I really question your mental facility. All governments have secrets, and for good reason. Democrats managed to keep a few secrets in their time.
The NYT is becoming an irrelevant rag.
Readership is down and their stock is in the dump much like a lot of Liberal MSM.
They are dying dinosaurs.
Sometimes I wonder what planet the right are living on. Most Americans aren’t real concerned about Iraq or the GWOT. Most people care about making mortage payments,making money,getting some loving,etc,etc,etc…… The fact that the right is constantly bringing up the GWOT just shows how much trouble they are in. Rallying around the flag is always a smart move politically cept’ the people are waking up to the Ameriban verison of the right in this country. Restricting a woman’s right to control her own body, tax cuts for rich,corporate welfare are all going to bite the G.O.P. IN THE TAIL
tommy, I really wonder who so misinforms you. I worry that Edited – ST steve, a Clintonista, Pelosi, Reid, or other Liberal fool will give Al Qaeda vital information or hamper anti-terror efforts that enable another successful 9/11.
While I worry about making my bills each month, (Just ask my girlfriend.) I don’t worry one whit about what you call corporate welfare or tax cuts. I believe in keeping what you make. tommy, you just want the government to play “Robin Hood” and cover your bad choices in life by taking someone else’s money and giving it to you. That is your Evil, tommy.
Tommy inaccurately asserted, “ The fact that the right is constantly bringing up the GWOT just shows how much trouble they are in.
It’d hardly be news (good news) if the Democrats/Media didn’t try to inaccurately accuse Bush of things. It keeps the GWOT in the news with us having to:
1) Correct the record
2) Respond to the inaccurate accusations
3) Help people understand in the information age that the Democrats are LYING.
I’m sorry you haven’t seen the great economic news for the last 11 quarters straight but it ONLY SHOWS that you need different sources of information to read then what you’ve been reading. I welcome your move towards doing that as I see you do have way more commons sense than most kneejerk liberals.
I’m not sure why you brought up restricting a woman’s right. I wonder if you can name for me two things that the Republican Congress since 1994 has done to restrict a woman’s “right” and why you think those two things are horrible actions but I truly don’t want to divert the topic of this thread. Suffice to say that your sources of information are guilty of scaremongering and lying on that subject.
The lie about tax cuts I’ve addressed before but you continue to spout out the inaccurate accusation. It was tax cuts for ALL income tax payers. It helped the economy boom and give double-digit revenues into the government in the last few years.
Corpoarte Welfare is a problem that conservatives agree with but is a problem of equal blame for both parties (the same as the pork for local districts building projects). Me thinks you are obsessed on this blame G.O.P. meme because of your sources of inaccurate information.
Steve are you thinking correctly?? Of course we have to have secrets. Or perhaps we should just open up Los Alamos to Iran too. Wha’d ya think?? Let’s give everyone of our enemies his own Nuclear weapon. That sounds like fun. Were you kicked in the head by a donkey on a daily basis or just weekly??
Tommy we raise the GWOT because it is important. We have people dying on foreign soil. If surveilance of calls coming into this country or going out of this country to/from cell numbers that we know are our enemy, will end this war sooner, then I have no problem with that. If you are innocent then trust me the NSA has enough on their plate, they don’t care about your aunt Jenny’s elbow. They will stop wasting their time soon enough. If you are not innocent, and information you give over your phone can save 1 American soldiers life then Hallalujah!!!! And since NO ONE can say that GW used this power against an innocent american then it must of been used correctly. – Lorica
I dunno PCD, Tommy in NYC has a point. Who are we to say a woman should not have the right to kill her own children? What right do Republicans have to lower the tax rate just to help everyone pay their own bills and increase government income? And how dare we lower taxes on the wealthy at the same time as lowering it for the poor? After all, the wealthy only pay a measly 85% of income taxes.
(that number may be wrong, but I left it in because it adds to the humor
When I read rubbish such as tommy posted, I feel even more secure in my conservativism and have no doubt that liberalism is a mental disease.
The Liberal Secret-Wish-List for the New Year:
1. High unemployment.
2. High interest rates.
3. High gas prices.
4. A downturn in the stock market.
5. Racial unrest in our cities.
6. Scandals in religious institutions as long as they’re not Islamic.
7. Increase Welfare rolls.
8. Labor unrest and strikes.
9. And the most disgraceful: More American soldiers coming home in bodybags.
I dare anyone to tell me I’m wrong.
I’ll tell you you’re wrong dax.
Very compelling argument, tommy.
tommy, just how is Dax wrong? Liberals are always filing suits to show the bodybags coming in at Dover and Andrews.
Kerry, himself, wanted to raise gas taxes, thereby raising the price of gas.
Democrats hate business. They are always trying to regulate them to death, that is the ones they haven’t taxed to death. You think business taxes aren’t bad? Join Jr. Achievement. Find out what it is like to found and run a company. Watch as your profits and operating capital are taxed away at every turn. Then, tommy, you explain to your shareholders why you didn’t make them money.
Increasing the welfare rolls? You bet! Government workers are beating the bushes to get people who don’t belong on government benefits. Winos getting SSI checks sent to their liquor store. Elderly foreign nationals collecting Social Security when they haven’t paid a penny into the system. Children on free or reduced school lunches when their parents are above the guidelines so that the schools get more taxdollars based on programs that look at the number of students on free and reduced lunches as their main criteria.
Need I go on, tommy?
I’m for 100% unemployment, which can be called a workless society. Machinery could replace 95% of human labor this very day. Government is nothing more than a wealth delivery system and works pretty well when it has not been corrupted. Think outside the box folks and create a more just planet. Peace
steve, you are delusional. You can’t replace as much human labor with machines as you think. Also, of the few things government does right, wealth redistribution is not one of them.
Since you hate people/politicians that support Israeli Jews and don’t support Communism, why don’t you relocate to a Communist Worker’s Paradise, steve? There’s Cuba and North Korea. China is sliding off the Marxist wagon.
Kevin, If tommy gets his knickers into much more of a twist, he’ll become a …
You need to read “Road to Serfdom” Steve.
Government doesn’t create wealth. It can only redistribute it. THe more it takes from the private sector and penalizes individuals who “create” and “work hard” the more the economy struggles. This is Economics 101 stuff. It’s even recognized by the Paul Krugman (very liberal) types Steve that communism is a removal of freedom and is a system that does not reward ingenuity and hard work. EVeryone becomes a DMV employee with no incentive to “create”, “invent”, “produce” and that economy falls back and the people suffer a LOWER standard of living.
So not only does Steve like and want a bloodbath but he wants people to suffer.
BTW, if this nation suffers just like other nations who haven’t learned this economic lesson, we wouldn’t be able to be as generous as we are and help so many people of the world out. We are the largest donator of food, medical supplies, money, etc and I for one will NEVER submit to doing nothing but what the state designates I do. I’ll ALWAYS try to get ahead (through whatever means – trading, bartering, etc) to make my life better.
You really need to read the book I mentioned above. Your view of human nature needs to be expanded.
Well shoot PCD let’s see how deregulating business would. I’d tell off the bat we as a nation would have a lot more communties like the love canal in upstate N.Y. the toxic dump that Erin brockovich got made famous for. Man I work for a fortune 500 company. The shareholders are making plenty of cash thank you very much. Don’t even get me started on the Enron’s,Worldcoms and Wal-Marts of this country. Or the airlines where people who’ve worked 40yrs suddenly see their pensions cut by 70% in a flash. Then youse on the right turn around and start screaming about all these Americans living high on the hog because of welfare. Are you freaking man. Sure you’ll always have gov’t waste and abuse but if youse think that’s re the problem instead of the wealthier getting wealthier while the middle-class shrinks yearly than you don’t have a clue.
Its not a very relentless war if they waited a year to tell us about bush’s surveillance in disrespect of congress.
Tommy asserts his lack of knowledge by writing, “N.Y. the toxic dump that Erin brockovich got made famous for
It was illegal. The company was held responsible. Your implication that government needs to regulate a company’s every move in order for a company not to break the law is funny. There are corrupt people in government as well as in the private sector. If people break the law they or the entity needs to be held accountable. You mix and match things and just don’t make sense.
You are good at making accusations but not good at understanding what is what in order to address problems.
Seems your only intention is to blame Republicans. Why? Do you recognize that even MORE regulations (many thousands of pages) have been registered for businesses to follow after the 54 year Democrats control of things (since 1994)?
By the way. Quick Question for you… Does business give more political contributions to Republicans or Democrats and by how much? Look back through from 1993 at the data. Tell us what you see!! The larger government gets the more companies contribute to people in power IN GENERAL in order to get favors.
I’m telling you bud, the answer is smaller government (not bigger).
tommynyc: “Sometimes I wonder what planet the right are living on. Most Americans aren’t real concerned about Iraq or the GWOT.”
ST: I’m living on planet earth, tommy. What planet are YOU on? Planet DNC, the fasting spinning planet in the universe? Because that’s where it sounds like you get most of your information. Iraq and the GWOT consistently poll in the top three or four concerns Americans have.
Maybe you just mean partisan Democrats aren’t real concerned about Iraq and the GWOT? At least not in terms of staying the course in either, because they do their level best to undermine them both (and actually, they are one in the same because Iraq is part of the GWOT) every chance they get by putting politics over national security, just like they did with Plamegate, and just like they’ve done with the leaks about the NSA.
The GWOT started in 1948, the day Israel was authorized to be a country by the United Nations. PCD let me say it for the millionth time(you must read only what you want to read) I love Israel and Jews I do not love Zionism. Baklava you pretend to know something about Socialism and Communism but I’ll bet you don’t know which one comes first. You also seem to think that evolution is something that really doesn’t exist, that nothing evolves. Peace
Tommy, you are treading on ground that you obviously don’t understand when you say
Deregulating doesn’t mean allowing companies to dump chemicals on the ground. That’s illegal and prosecutable (via OSHA). De-regulation on te other hand, is very desireable for consumers. Remember when Reagan deregulated gas prices? The price crashed for almost 20 years.
When I was an active Chemical Engineer, we had to allocate 22% of our net to complying with federal regulations when producing polyethylene and PVC. 22%! This had NOTHING to do with protecting the environment. It was all paperwork and proof of compliance. The environmental part is built in, and has been since the late 70’s.
Keep in mind, we didn’t absorb this cost. We passed it on to you. A horrible waste of money, but we didn’t have to pay for it. You did. Luckily, plastic is relatively lightweight, or we would have been out of business from the foriegn importers not suffering from the same regulations.
No one is advocating poisoning the earth Tom. Regulations just don’t solve the problem, but thwy create some.
Steve,
An evil person does not evolve fast enough to listen to a woman begging him to stop. Intead of making inaccurate accusations about what I believe how about engaging the discussion. You divert by attacking. You act all high and mighty yet show yourself as very mean.
We can all apologize for the United Nations that Israel was created in 1947, but what you have just done is given aid and comfort to the enemy. You with your words ADD to the bloodbath. Why? Because Israel is a nation and people can’t just legitimately say they want it wiped off the face of the map. There are ways to legitimately, legally, ethically, solve problems and to the extent that Muslims or YOU aren’t for legitimately, legally and ethically solving problems you and your friends will continue to illegally, unethically, illigitimately pose your greivances against Israel. Killing women and children in Batmitvah’s and cafe’s is not a way to pose your or your friend’s greivances.
You simply need to recognize you and your friends methods are evil. You can’t wipe Israel off the face of the map. You can only try to coexist with non-muslims. You have to coexist with the infidel. I’m sorry that you don’t think the Koran doesn’t allow you to coexist with the infidel but you’ll either EVOLVE to the belief that you have to coexist or your violence and unethical, illegal, illigitmate ways of posing your grievance will be met with force because we recognize what evil is. The woman in the story knew but she wasn’t equipped with a firearm like the 1500 women of Orlando.
Yeah. I had a little literary fun here. But I hope you realize you made a HUGE blunder here. You can’t simply say words irresponsibly and then not expect some flack.
“The GWOT started in 1948, the day Israel was authorized to be a country by the United Nations”
Not earlier, with the King David Hotel bombing?
andrew and steve reveal their deep seated hatred of Israel. What a pair of Bigots.
Tommy, thanks for demonstrating your ignorance of the world and finance. You don’t know Jack. I’ll have to remember that in replying to you.
Oh, next time you want to complain about Wal-Mart, talk to Hillary Clinton, she’s on the board of directors for Wal-Mart. It’s one of those perks she got being married to a corrupt governor of Arkansas.
OK well I didn’t know that about my senator so I appreciate you letting me know that.Seriously. That being said Ido more than” Jack”. I’ll tell you this though next time youse on the right start complaining about taxes and the size of governmnt remember what Bill Gates and Warren Buffett said when the tax cuts came down after 43 took charge of the Oval Office. They said they didn’t need them. For some reason which I can’t put my finger on, I happen to believe them. Is there a ton of room to streamline how all branches of government work. Sure. But if honestly don’t realize that under the 43 Admin the gap between the have’s and have not’s are rising than I guess you are willfully ignoring the amount of sheer poverty that some Americans are born into. The indifference the right shows it’s most vulernrable citizens is very telling.
tommy, when will you learn to not listen with your mouth?
Gates and Buffet are Billionaires, and both are DEMOCRATS. Also, both are hypocrites on the tax cuts. Any American can refuse their tax cuts by send the money to the Treasury. There have been VERY FEW RICH Democrat who have refused their tax cuts. Not Michael Moore, John F. Kerry, Edward M. “Ted” Kennedy, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Corzine, Mark Dayton, just to name a few that have to publish their tax returns or in Moore’s case publicly stated he won’t refuse the tax cut.
This is a BS as in Barbara Streisand argument, tommy. Reagan and Bush have proved tax cuts INCREASE THE FLOW of revenue to the Treasury. That is a proven and public fact. ScamAmerica and the Democrats won’t admit it.
No matter what proof you are shown, tommy, you just don’t get it because you have a little box filled with unhappy left wingnut Democrats that you listen to only and you don’t think for yourself.
Is everyone having a good morning? That’s great cause I am!
Question: Why is it that an intelligent political conversation with a Liberal is a rare and usually a short-lived event?
Obviously this is not to say that ALL Liberals are idiots, they’re not however; when it come to politics, their comments and rebutals are mostly baseless, irrelevant, and intellectually bankrupt.
Why is that??
We’ve all seen it a thousand time. A poltical conversation starts and all goes well for about 5 minutes. Suddenly, the Liberal that is engaged in the conversation clams-up. A bit of time goes by and from nowhere the words, VietNam, Nixon, Enron, Watergate, Halliburton, WMDs, Tax breaks for the RICH, and Bush lied, take over the what was at one time a “civil” conversation.
How does this happen, Why does this happen?
I have a theory, but first I’d like to hear your comments.
Dax in Raleigh
Dax,
It is because Liberals have never had to debate in an arena where they did not control the content and the decision of who wins the debate. They are intellectually lazy and spoiled.
From college campuses, to the MSM, to the early ISPs like Prodigy, Liberals ran the show without being subject to penalties for being dishonest or unfair. I mentioned Prodigy because it died because of Liberal censorship on its discussion forums. They got called on it and they refused to correct the problem. Their subscribership moved to an upstart company called America On Line.
Even with the story from Madison, when the liberals get caught, they act like little spoiled kids and run home rather than be grown up and take their medicine.
PCD I definitly think for myself unlike some of youse on the right. Climbing defecits, An unnecassary pre-emptive strike on a dictator who posed no real,immediate threat to our nation( at 500 BILLION and counting) more and more restrictions on a woman’s right to choose,cronyism( well that actually goes to both parties but youse are in charge at the moment)record trade deficits with China who I would like to add has a worse human-rights record than Saddam’s Iraq, Blurring the lines of separtation between church in states with my F—-G tax-dollars going to evangelical educational programs and last but not least a totally strain on the U.S. military with this clown as SECDEF who thinks robots are the new 21st centuary warriors of this country.Edited. –ST Bush 43 is doing more damage than good for this great nation.
PCD,
Liberals are intellectually lazy and spoiled?
I don’t disagree, but I’m not “buying” your entire comment. Sure, at one time they controlled the entire platform , but that’s not been the case for a while.
I think there’s more.
I think this may add gas to the fire.
Tommy wrote, “remember what Bill Gates and Warren Buffett said when the tax cuts came down
Yep. THey are liberals. How about remembering what I as a relative poor man said when the tax cuts for ALL income tax payers came….. I said, “YAHOO. I NEED IT.” I then proceeded to spend the money on something I needed and that helped the economy unbeknownst to you that’s how it works. When the ECONOMY is helped government revenues INCREASE.
As for Bill and Warren they are perfectly able to take out their checkbook and SPEND their money by giving MORE to the government, or charity, or you, or research and development projects. But OTHERWISE. THey have ONE VOTE.
Tommy wrote, “For some reason which I can’t put my finger on, I happen to believe them
Because you are a like minded liberal?
Tommy INCORRECTLY (don’t you get tired of being incorrect) asserted, “The indifference the right shows it’s most vulernrable citizens is very telling
Tommy. Social spending during the Bush administration has INCREASED more than when Clinton was in office. That’s not indifference. THat’s just lying and demagoging and repeating your liberal leader’s non-truths. As I’ve said, you need to get reading. Learn.
Dax, I’ve been trying to figure it out as a former liberal myself. Why was I susceptible to the lies? Why was I prone to act morally outraged and lecture people about policies and issues. 1991 was a banner year for me. I went to the library 3 times a week for that whole year as my entire world view and core beliefs were challenged and I had to figure it all out. From the environment to race to budgets and taxes. Since then I’ve read Christina Hoff Summers “Who Stole Feminism” and Ward Connerly’s “Creating Equal” and I must say that conservatives have to deal with a lot of anger and aggressiveness by the left. The campuses the’ve gone to to speak weren’t helpful and their lives have been threatened AND…
…instead of engaging these conservatives in a debate of substance they do the common thing and throw out their laundry list of accusations.
tommy, you are projecting your own psychological shortcomings on to others, specifically myself and others who disagree with you.
You’ve spouted nothing more than the talking points of the DNC, Daily Krap, DU, and ScamAmerica. You care to show us how you think?
Here’s one to start with. Other than Defense, name a federal program the Democrats have said that Bush is not running right and what is the solution. Bonus points for telling us how spending more in the budget than is beins spent now will not balloon the deficit further.
Just a preemptive strike on you, tommy. There isn’t one program, other than Defense, where the Democrats would not hike spending far more than the GOP is spending now.
Over at the Right Politics blog, there is a citation of an excellent article concerning the myth of separation of church and state. Except for Congress being barred from establishing a state religion, the Constitution is silent except for the Bill of Rights which allows freedom or religious expression. Show us your thoughts on this tommy, and don’t think you can pass off canned talking points as your thoughts because we’ve seen them thousands of times before posted by wandering liberal trolls.
Tommy wrote, “more and more restrictions on a woman’s right to choose
Another laundry list. We’se on the right (little tommy lingo for ya) keep having to deal with inaccurate accusation from Tommy. But here goes. Tommy, I asked you on some other thread and you ignored the question. Name three things that the Republicans in Congress have done since gaining power in 1994 to restrict a woman’s right to choose and why that action was bad in your view. Remember, we are here to correct your incorrect assertions.
When you throw out laundry lists Tommy. We can’t adequately deal with the rest of your list without having a book written. But your penchant to hoist blame on conservatives/Republicans for things you aren’t knowledgable enough to talk about has gotten you into a situation where you can only FIRE AWAY. Spray and pray is what you are doing.
And if you weren’t pi$$ed-off enough, try this
Media bias? No way!
It all comes back to the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of Americans would be able to finance more of these gov’t programs that’s all. There is no disputing this fact. By the way are also trying to tell me that taking money out of the Social Security fund as 43 would like to do won’t decrease the amount of cash our senior citizens receive. While it is true that that social program is being used in ways in was never intentioned do you want the sick,infirm and elderly to be stuck to fend for themselves? To say nothing about how the right fightstooth and nail against legalizing grass while drug companies are making money hand over fist? The constituation also never mentions anything about federal spending being used to finance religious education of which I am a product of. Long live secularism the only hope for the future of this great nation.
Dax, A second answer to your question.
Lack of personal responsibility.
1) Won’t do the research to see if their leveled accusations have merit
2) Won’t do the research to see if their solutions/policies would have the results (that everyone wants – no racism, no deficits, good education, good environment, good economy)
3) Will actually believe that the 50% of the country who is conservative (instead of being responsible and listening to a conservative’s dream) do not want an a) a good environment, good education, no defecit, good economy, etc.)
4) Lack of personal responsibility in realizing that utopia CAN NOT exist. Life is as it is and we can only try to improve the circumstances for everyone. We can teach people how to fish or give them fish but is giving it to them really the solution? No.
1)The partial-birth abortion bill 2) Republican dominated state legislatures passing bills requiring parental notifacation laws 3) denying cash to U.N. Programs unless that only teach abstinance programs as the only way to prevent the spread of STD’S. are those 3 good enough for you Baklava.
Tommy,
You spew talking points again. No reasoning or logic from you, nothing but spew. You snow no figures or studies. You just repeat the mantra of the left of “Soak the Rich”, the rich has no right to their riches.
Edited. –ST. I suppose you endorse this racial discrimination, too. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1449254
As for your church and state mantra read and address this ruling http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051221/NEWS01/512210 407
Surprise us tommy and show us you can think, reason, and relate without talking points.
Tommy lied again by writing, “It all comes back to the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of Americans would be able to finance more of these gov’t programs that’s all.
It was a tax cut for all income tax payers and guess what… the government revenues are increasing by the double-digits. We could’ve raised tax rates and the revenues into the government be less because the recession was extended. WHich would you have wanted Tommy? Extended recession means more people suffering longer…
There is diputing your lie.
On Social Security… allowing people to manage 6% of their contributions in mutual funds gives them a nest egg they can pass down to their children (something that currently african american/black men can’t do and they die sooner). THe government would honor ALL of what seniors are owed and your accusation that the government wouldn’t is NOT what Bush’s plan posted on the whitehouse’s website says. All you have is accusations and no debate of ideas.
Nobody wants the elderly to “fend” for themselves as you seem to “think” conservatives want. Isn’t it interesting how you believe such poor thoughts about the wants of 50% of americans. Grow up. We all want people to live better as I stated above. Unfortunately liberals can’t recognize this and debate so poorly.
tommy,
You are a barbarian!
1. partial birth abortion is an abomination where a viable child is killed. You ever hear of adoption??
2. Since parents are responsible for the child’s welfare, then they should be notified about anything and everything that happens to that child. What kind of person are you????
3.The UN does not operate in the US. So why should we fund it at all???
Tommy,
1) Has the support of more than 2/3rd of Americans
2) Has the support of more than 2/3rd of Americans
3) You assertion is incorrect.
The second part of the question was ignored. Why are these 2 things bad Tommy?
These are perfectly reasonable and yet you characterize it absurdly as “restricting a woman’s right to choose”. Choose when? In the 9th month? Without the parents knowing?
Reasonable and widely supported = bad
PCD,
/tagging you as I have to shower and get to work
Tommy,
Specifically to your points on social security: I suspect that if FDR were around today, he would be open to new ideas about how to handle SS, including private accounts and investment of part of the money in equities. The present configuration of SS is only one of many ways to run a national pension system..it seems that many Democrats treat it as graven on stone because ‘that’s the way we’ve always done things around here.’
Dax, A second answer to your question.
Lack of personal responsibility.
Me, I think it’s lack of honesty based on the realization that everything, or possibly everything, that are core foundations of their beliefs are fraudulent
1) Won’t do the research to see if their leveled accusations have merit
Again, a lack of honesty.
2) Won’t do the research to see if their solutions/policies would have the results (that everyone wants – no racism, no deficits, good education, good environment, good economy)
Again, honesty.
3) Will actually believe that the 50% of the country who is conservative (instead of being responsible and listening to a conservative’s dream) do not want an a) a good environment, good education, no defecit, good economy, etc.)
4) Lack of personal responsibility in realizing that utopia CAN NOT exist. Life is as it is and we can only try to improve the circumstances for everyone. We can teach people how to fish or give them fish but is giving it to them really the solution? No.
The main problem with Liberalism is their inability to objectively look at themselves, their policies, and the outcomes of their policies and realize where they are wrong.
You have to go no further than public education. Public education has been, and continues to be, a Liberal petridish. Every possible Liberal experiment has been tried, and where is public education today? I’ve asked Liberals to address the problems with public education and the problems that first comes to their minds are:
1. Higher wages for teachers.
2. Smaller classrooms.
3. More schools.
Can a person with an ounce of honesty say that THOSE ARE THE MAIN PROBLEMS WITH PUBLIC EDUCATION???
Again, the problem with Liberalism is the lack of honesty, and without honesty, you have………………………………………nothing
Dax in Raleigh
Comment by Baklava @ 12/30/2005 – 10:26 am
Dax wrote, “The main problem with Liberalism is their inability to objectively look at themselves, their policies, and the outcomes of their policies and realize where they are wrong.
I’ll say there is an amount of lack of personal responsibility fueled by the inability for self-critique. That lack of personal responsibility is responsible for not matching up facts, policies, solutions with the results as in cause and effect type scenarios.
With a lack of personal responsibility it “feels” good to liberals to “feel” that tax rates shouldn’t have been reduced for the top 1% of income earners (the tax rate reduction was given to all income tax payers but liberal “feelings” can’t take that information in.) What is important to them with this lack of responsibility is their “feelings”. They will not step up to the plate and be responsible to see if policies/solutions will result in their stated desires.
Steve is a prime example of this. He will not engage on the substance of our ideas. He will only “feel” and his lack of responsibility will only feed his problem until he grows some sense of responsibility.
“andrew and steve reveal their deep seated hatred of Israel. What a pair of Bigots.”
The funny thing is that steve is referencing an arab attack and me a jewish one. And yet this is bigotry.