… considering all the setbacks this week that have happened in the war on terror, thanks to the liberal media, former admin and intelligence agency employees with an axes to grind against the President, and politicians on both sides of the aisle (including the President) who seem to believe that being politically correct on the issue of the ‘torture law’ (as well as the Patriot Act) trumps our national security. A recap:
- The Senate rejected an extension of the Patriot Act by a vote of 52-47 (Dec. 16)
- False accusations of ‘domestic spying’ printed in the media courtesy of ‘former senior admin officials’ about alleged warrantless domestic spying that in actuality was a monitoring of international communications (see bogus Wash Post headline here - Dec. 16)
- The official story on the so-called ‘domestic spying’ that was first reported in the NYTimes looks suspiciously like an attempt to pump up the upcoming book on Bush and the CIA written by NYT reporter James Risen (who co-wrote the article in question) - the book is set to be released in January
- The President caved and came out in support of Sen. John McCain’s ‘torture law’ (Dec.15)
Our men and women overseas can and do fight the good fight every day of their lives over in Iraq and Afghanistan - and they are winning. But here on the homefront, we are losing: thanks to the politics of fighting the war on terror in a politically correct era chock full of politicians (mostly Dems) who want to look good in front of the cameras rather than take a strong - and TRUTHFUL - stand and sticking to it, a 24-7 liberal news media environment (and second-guessing-defeatist Democrats) that magnifies the negative things in the war on terror while barely mentioning the positive, and so-called “civil liberties advocates” who do nothing but their best to push back the very laws that the President either had put in place or existing laws he had strengthened to protect us in the war on terror in the aftermath of 9-11.
How incredibly frustrating.
Somewhere, the terrorists are smiling.
Read more via La Shawn Barber and Michelle Malkin - both ladies have excellent posts up about this.
Related Toldjah So posts:
- The politics of the torture agreement
- “If 1941 Were 2005″
- The media’s war
- Dems once again fail to find unified message on Iraq
- Winning in spite of defeatist attitudes
- Dems and media determined to ignore Iraq progress
- W’s approval rating rises
- The undermining of this war
- Joe Lieberman: the black sheep of the Democratic party
- A powerful reminder of why we must never waver
- MoveOn.org pulls anti-war ad
- Democrats won’t want to hear this but…
- Cheney’s smackdown speech to the American Enterprise Institute
- Dem House Representative calls for immediate troop withdrawal
Hi
It should send a chill down your spine that the president 36 times - 36 times - signed off on the NSA spying on US Citizens (also called Americans).
Now I know you are a firm supporter of the president and I’ll defend your right to have and voice your opinions, but the is a very slippery slope the president has started on. This is after all, against the law and a violation of the law is not a good thing for the president to engage in, especially dozens of times.
If the democrats are able to hang on the republican party what Newt did to them in the mid 90’s all hell can and probably will break loose. The Dem’s will hold hearings, subpeona people and look for a way to impeach the president arguing the bar was set pretty low with Bill and this along with manipulation of intelligence, etc does not bode well.
So, I ask you to join with the majority of Americans in expressing the outrage of this action and helping to head off disaster. It’s not the crime it’s the cover up.
-Joe
Comment by Joe @ 12/17/2005 - 1:49 am
When terrorists want to organise they will not be interrupted by any inconvenient laws.
Comment by stackja @ 12/17/2005 - 1:53 am
Check out a funny site dedicated to the absurdity and satire nature of saying “It’s All George Bush’s Fault!”
http://www.itsallgeorgebushsfault.com
Regards,
Notta Libb
Comment by Notta Libb @ 12/17/2005 - 2:32 am
The Anti-Torture law really doesn’t bother me too much. You see most of these guys are wanted by more than the US. Sooooo we can always do what Clinton did. Just turn them over to another country and let them extract the information we need. Egypt was a favorite of Billy Bob’s. - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 12/17/2005 - 9:28 am
Lorica, you are clearly a violent fascist. You see nothing wrong with torture,war,violence and death. My side fears people of your ilk far more than those people who work for Peace thru non-violence. Come out of the darkness and join the sons of light. Peace
Comment by steve @ 12/17/2005 - 10:35 am
The sons of light?? If YOU represent the sons of light, I’ll stay in the darkness, thank you! You went over the line with your remark and it was a very petty and ignorant thing to say.
Every time I read your posts I thank GOD that people like you are not in charge, we’d all be speaking German, Japanese, Russian, or Arabic with people like you at the helm.
Remember, “except for ending slavery, fascism, communism, and nazism, war never solved anything”
Comment by NC Cop @ 12/17/2005 - 10:50 am
I want to join up with Steve! Maybe if we just ‘love’ a little more, and ‘hate’ a little less, the terrorists would throw down their guns and come hug us, and we could sing songs and stuff.
Idealism is great.
Comment by Kevin @ 12/17/2005 - 11:17 am
The activity disturbs me, but understand that it’s not the surveillance, but the fact that GWB didn’t follow the law and go through the secret court. Why bypass the process? It’s quick, and presumably he would have gotten his way unless the surveillance was clearly unrelated to national security. Is there something wrong with the process that we’re not aware of, or was the Admin. just being sloppy?
The real danger here is if the surveillance had crossed into something more politically or idealogiclly related. There’s no indication of that at this time, but if the precident is allowed to be established unchallenged, that kind of “political” use sometime in the future becomes a greater possiblity.
Ken G
Comment by kenwg @ 12/17/2005 - 2:41 pm
I agree with Steve to the extent that I do think that this administration and many of its supporters are too quick to accept going to war, use of torture, bypassing civil liberties, etc. But I cringe at the use of the term “violent fascist” as much as at terms like “America-hating traitor” and “Liar”.
Ken G
Comment by kenwg @ 12/17/2005 - 3:07 pm
NC Cop says,”people like me”; just exactly who are people like me? kenwg, why cringe at “violent fascist” unless you identify with that type of thinking? You folks are constantly, labeling the left as defeatists and loser liberals. So it seems odd that the “pot would call the kettle black”. From where I stand we are all Americans trying to maintain our freedom and safety. The Left believes that that requires a peaceful approach and not the constant projection of “certain death thru superior firepower”. You cannot kill an idea who’s time has come but, you can kill everyone around you if you believe that you are the only one who see’s the truth….bush. Peace
Comment by steve @ 12/17/2005 - 3:51 pm
Steve you are as clearly stupid as you have ever been. Violent facist??? I love the SS Nazi comparisons that always come from you deceived bb brained fools. Why don’t you just once try to think alittle bit more 3 dimensionally. I was attempting to make light of the subject. I was clearly stating a fact, that the Clinton admin would just turn these guys over to the other countries that wanted them and let them do the dirty work. Do you in all of your ignorance believe that is going to change??? Did something happen to the CIA in the last 24 hours that they became flower children?? But you, as always Steve, rush to judgement and stupidly make a comment before using the power of your single digit IQ. Let me fill you in on something Steve. Satan is a reality in this world. And he wants you unarmed and not dangerous so that you can be easily controlled. Stupidity, Ignorance, Evil and War are all weapons of Satan. But if you think you can get huggy kissy with the ultimate form of evil in the universe, you are foolishly mistaken. It only proves your ignorance. Which if you read this far, is of Satan. MY enemy is not Islam, it is not Dems, it is not anyone living on this planet. It is Satan, who just so happens to be My God’s enemy. I fight my enemy everywhere I see it, which right now is you. Consider this post the same as the tax collectors would of considered Jesus taking a whip to their arses as he violently threw them out of the Temple yelling at the the whole time, ” My Father’s house will be a house of prayer!!!” And don’t you ever compare me to people that would kill my Father’s chosen people again. There is absolutely no hate in my heart but for what I have posted above. Come out of ignorance and walk in reality and light, it is the only way to actually know. - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 12/17/2005 - 7:15 pm
The “left” doesn’t really want to “do” anything. Pontificating, whining, and protesting, now that’s the ticket. Makes you feel all morally superior and good inside, and doesn’t really require any nasty action or accomplishment.
I’m so reminded of the fameous Tom Lehrer’s song about protest songs in the 60’s:
Oh we are the folk song army,
Everyone of us cares,
We all hate poverty, war and injustice,
Unlike the rest of you squares.
If you feel dissatisfaction,
Strum your frustrations away,
Some people may prefer action,
But give me a folk song any old day!
Remember the war against Franco,
That’s the kind where each of us belong,
Though he may have won all the battles,
We had all the good songs!
We are the folk song army,
Guitars are the weapons we bring,
To the war against poverty, war, and injustice,
Ready, Aim, SING!
Comment by Severian @ 12/17/2005 - 10:07 pm
“just exactly who are people like me?”
People like you, Steve, are those who are completely out of touch with reality. It’s nice to say “war is bad!” and think that it’s going to solve all the worlds problems, but whether or not you admit/see it war is responsible for stopping Imperial Japan, war is responsible for stopping Nazi Germany, war is responsible for stopping fascists in Italy, war is responsible for stopping North Korea from invading South Korea, get the idea?
I am curious though, if you are so “anti-war”, would you oppose the Revolutionary war???? Were there other options that those of you “enlightened” people could have used? Surely you “sons of light” are not a new phenomenon, so why didn’t they come to a peaceful solution with the British???
Comment by NC Cop @ 12/18/2005 - 7:22 am
Lorica, according to Peter Brimelow, “The modern definition of Fascist is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.” So I guess you are kind of fascist
Comment by Kevin @ 12/18/2005 - 2:37 pm
At some point in time people became convinced that a spaceship could fly to the moon. But, before that happened most people thought flying to the moon was stupid or whatever. If you always do what you’ve always done….you’ll always get what you always got. War. When is it time to stop war and make Peace? Someone must have the cojones to take the first step and that guy ain’t bush. Peace
Comment by steve @ 12/18/2005 - 4:20 pm
You are absolutely right Kevin, I did win. Thank you. - Lorica
Comment by Lorica @ 12/18/2005 - 4:43 pm